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#1 ·
Hi guys I need some expertise. Can someone tell me if the Pflueger Medalist (new version) pictured below is set up correctly for Left hand retrieve.

Many thanks.

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#2 · (Edited)
Unfortunately I don’t have direct experience with that reel, but the Hardy reels built on that same plan have the correct (according to the original design at least) pawl placement as shown with the off positions having the slots facing the direction the springs are pointed. Also according to the original plan only one is engaged at time with opposite configurations for left and right hand wind respectively. But you should be able to tell without reference to anything else that it is the correct of the two configuration since there will be a slight but clear increase in the tension (and sound) going out, and less tension going in. All of this depends on very subtle asymmetries in the placement and shape of the pawls relative to the gear, and not all companies manage equally well. And there can be slight difference in older reel of exactly the same type if one is worn (or abused) more than the other.

And yes, on a Hardy like a Marquis which has the same layout and mechanism as that one almost exactly for some of the reels, when viewed as pictured with the springs pointing down, the left pawl should be engaged for left hand retrieve, and vice versa. But if you can’t tell from the tension difference itself I suppose that would be the definition of “not mattering” for a particular reel. But even on a less expensive reel you should be able to tell by the FEEL, even if you forget which pawl is supposed to be engaged. :)

You will occasionally hear about people flipping both pawls to ON at once, which by symmetry will remove the difference between incoming and outgoing tensions, and even sometimes flipping one or both pawls upside down. Those all can work as an expedient for when you want more tension for some reason, but none of those technically correspond to intended configurations in the original design, and they usually change the quality of the sound a lot - in an obvious detrimental direction IMO, if such things matter to you.
 
#3 · (Edited)
Hi guys I need some expertise. Can someone tell me if the Pflueger Medalist (new version) pictured below is set up correctly for Left hand retrieve.

Many thanks.

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Well....I don’t have this model so I can’t tell at a glance but it should be a simple fix. Snap on the spool on and see if it’s working right or left hand retrieve. The adjustable drag appears to be tightened to maximum resistance which is never a good thing to leave it at as it compresses the spring and if left, can cause a set or reduce the resistance in the spring.
Try loosening the drag setting to zero with the dial, and then increasing it a few turns to a 1/4 setting to slightly increase the drags resistance. This should let you be able to feel the drag working while reeling the handle backwards. If it is not in LHW, remove the spool again and adjust the erect pawl on the left into the neutral position, (as with the pawl on the right,) and try engaging or erecting the right hand pawl.
 
#4 ·
Hi guys I need some expertise. Can someone tell me if the Pflueger Medalist (new version) pictured below is set up correctly for Left hand retrieve.

Many thanks.

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Well....I don’t have this model so I can’t tell at a glance but it should be a simple fix. Snap on the spool on and see if it’s working right or left hand retrieve. The adjustable drag appears to be tightened to maximum resistance which is never a good thing to leave it at as it compresses the spring and if left, can cause a set or reduce the resistance in the spring.
Try loosening the drag setting to zero with the dial, and then increasing it a few turns to a 1/4 setting to slightly increase the drags resistance. This should let you be able to feel the drag working while reeling the handle backwards. If it is not LHW, remove the spool again and adjust the erect pawl on the left into the neutral position, (as with the pawl on the right,) and try engaging or erecting the right hand pawl. Replace the spool and try winding the handle foreword and then backwards again to determine which direction offers the least resistance.
Regards.....Jim
 
#8 ·
Yeah, that is par for the course for most of these reels. The screw never really does a lot. Sometimes it seems like it is there just to give you the illusion of control. If you are really dissatisfied with the tension you can jigger with the spring by bending it, or even bending and then heating it in the oven to try to re-anneal a new shape. Maybe use it a while before deciding you need to take drastic action.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Yes, I think that is the main thing. The whole point of these reels is you control the “drag” entirely yourself, but the tension does perform a non-drag function. After using one a while you tend to get used to and appreciate far less tension than you thought you needed at the beginning. Messing with the springs is a last resort after you have already experienced catching fish in a variety of situations and just can’t take it. I did this on an old CFO V after catching several small steelhead on the Klamath over the course of a few days it just was too little to feel good. But it really was almost nothing - like it might backspool if it got bumped the wrong way. So I got a little bigger spring for it. I messed with a few of my smaller, well-used Marquis reels in this way as well, but generally very little is enough…up to a certain point. Plus I do like loud and clear if I can get it! That is the Pavlovian function of the ratchet. :)