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I am wondering if i should wait and buy the highest priced rod on the market or do i get a more mid priced rod. will better meterial and a better taper help my cast. I owen a 12'6" 8 wt tfo and am looking at a bunch of rod blanks and rods to go with these nice reels i have bought. now are these more costly rods just a status symbol. or do they make good rods for cheap! i looked at the cnd and meiser along with lamiglas and scott. but the ones that say to me that they should be fished not hung on a mantle is tfo or st croix. is there realy a rod out there that will preform wonders. this is why i must ask about echo spey rods will these rods do the trick that i am looking for are they stiff or are they to soft. reason i ask is a lot of you are very smart and know what you are talking about. i find my tfo a little slow in action and was wondering if the echo from rajeff sports was a step up



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For my monies worth, the answer to your question is no. Rod action is a personal thing and you should find a rod that fits your style but the rod does not make you a good caster. Practice and instruction are what do that.
 

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I think that some of the less expensive rods cast pretty nice if you match them up with a good line, but many of them are not as fun/good to fish with. Some of them weigh a lot more than the high end rods. Which is ok but after a long day it makes a difference and often playing a fish on a lighter rod is more fun. Just my .02
 

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I agree with 'Tip, the rod doesn't make you a good a better caster, practice and instruction do. A good caster can take a cheap rod and cast it far better and farther than a poor caster can cast a high end, expensive, state-of-the-art rod. Since you just started spey casting, the best thing you can do is practice, practice, practice with the rod you got, and get some casting instruction from a good spey caster or spey casting instructor.

The TFO 2-handers I've cast were fine casting rods and a beginning spey caster would never feel nor know the difference between casting the high-end 2-handers and the CND Expert, TFO, St. Croix, Echo, or Cabela's 2-handers with the exception of cosmetics.
 

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line change

would a line change on the tfo help speed it up say a 678 instead of a 789 i have heared of things like this happening



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I think I would go to an 8/9/10. I take it you are talking about the TFO8126? You'll notice the rods loads much easier with a heavier line, I have a feeling this is the problem you are having.
 

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The "best" rod on the market won't make you a better caster. Perfect practice with a properly blanced line and rod will make you better over time.

Look at it this way, if I borrowed Tiger Woods' golf clubs I'm not going to golf like Tiger, period. Guarantee you that no matter what clubs Tiger picked up, as long as they fit him (and maybe if they didn't!), he would still be a world class golfer. Same principle applies to spey fishing.

The TFO series of rods have a very traditional flex pattern. Also, they are excellent performers at an excellent price. TFO is a great company backed with great customer service and they offer an excellent product for an attractive price. Your particular rod with the WC 8/9/10 that Jamey recommended would be an excellent combination. As you evolve as a caster maybe the WC 7/8/9 or the MS 7/8 depending on what you want to do and how you like your rod to feel.

One of my favorite dry line rods, at any price, is the TFO 1510 paired with a Carron Jet Stream 10/11 standard belly line. Effortless delivery...for me.

All makers have "gems" of their rod series. Some truly are better than others. Search through the archives of this site looking at rods and lines and you'll be able to read volumes of opinions and get a place to start.

There is no magic rod and there is no magic line. What you need to find is a properly balanced combination that fits your casting style that "feels" right to YOU.
 

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thanks

how well does a wulff ttsalmon/ spey 8 wt line work on a tfo 12'6" 8 wt spey rod will it worrk or is it too heavy


thanks for the advice and tight lines b trout1013........ :devil:
 

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I fell that the problem with many rods are
1 they are too soft in the tip, upper part
2 they are too stiff in the butt...
The rod should load easily ALL the way down, without the tip collapsing...
 

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how right you are

sven kalmar said:
I fell that the problem with many rods are
1 they are too soft in the tip, upper part
2 they are too stiff in the butt...
The rod should load easily ALL the way down, without the tip collapsing...


with my tfo i find me applying to much power. to cast a wulff triangle taper spey salmon line 65 feet. the wulff line is a 8 wt and the rod is a 12'6" 8 wt . this is were i think i should go light in the line but not sure? i am think about going to a 7 wt line in a orvis short head in stead of the 8 wt wulff line. just to try it out ant thoughts about this

thanks again and tight lines b trout1013....... :confused:
 

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The tfo`s are a little stiff and you might benefit the most by going up one line size in order to feel the rod loading better.
 

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maybe your right

maybe your right funny thing is the rod i am looking at is a g loomis. dredger series kispiox 12'6" 8/9 weight for the price it seems better than a lot of rods on the market.how do these compare to the tfo maybe i should not ask. i should know the answer. since your a loomis man thanks again and tight lines btrout1013....... :confused:
 

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Yep ditto most posts.....Rather than spend the big dollars on a high priced stick save your pennies for lessons.....After your learn what the rod can and should do for you then you will be able to better understand which style suits your casting and needs.....
 

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lessons

i had dec hogan come out to the local shop and give us some insite. is there any good viedos or dvd out there to buy? would this be good enough just watching a clip? i was thinking how much could some one need thanks for the advice and tight lines btrout1013....... :confused:
 

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simon's book

after all i dont like books. they they are not as good as viedos. i think even thought it would be a great book to owen. i hear.

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Question: Will a better Spey rod help my cast?

Not sure, but a better cast will assuredly lead you to want a better Spey rod! :cool:
 

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Question: Will a better Spey rod help my cast? Not sure, but a better cast will assuredly lead you to want a better Spey rod! Juro
And that is the TRUTH, well for me anyhow! :saeek:

(EDIT) I should also add that confidence in one's ability to cast will help as well. I thought the same thing when i first started spey casting about a better rod making me a better caster. I went from St. Croix to Sage to Loop and was not satisfied. I then settled down with the Loop and practiced and practiced and practiced until I had my first A HAAAAA! experience. I still have them and figuring these things out is what comes from practice. Keep at it BT1013, you will find your "niche" be it a high priced super duper stick or your TFO.

Vinnie
 

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The video Derek brown made is one of the best I think..some very nice singlehanded speying in there as well.....Buy a burkheimer!! og Clan 17 with XCLT7/8..Hehe. mauyube both.? Were lost anyway us anglers anonymous...
 
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