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I'm looking for a rod that meets the following requirements. Any recommendations?

1. Length = 12' to 13'
2. Line weight = 8 or 9
3. Action = VERY fast
4. Casting stroke = underhand

I've tried the Sage 6126 adn 8126 as well as the Loop yellow 12'4". I did not like the 8126 action. The 6126 was a little too light and the yellow was too soft.
 

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Try a Loomis GLX 13' 8/9
 

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Loop Geenline 8124 or maybe the T&T, but I haven't tried one of those. I can vouch for my 8124 Greenline. Pretty quick stuff.

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Rob,

I'd sure agree with Matt and ahab. I really like my Loop Blue 8124- it's MUCH faster than my Yellow 9132, though I like it , too. I'd say the Blue is nearly as fast as my T&T 1307. The Green must be amazing- too fast for me, I think. (would love to try one sometime!) It's hard to beat the Loops for the money, tho' T&T blanks can be had for about 350, I think that's what I paid for mine.

Good luck on the hunt!

John
 

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I WANT ON ALSO

Giver Robert Miser a Call he Has a couple rocket sleds in the back room with your name on them.
He calls them extra fast.

Have you tried the 8136 Sage had one in my hand for a brief time until Al Buhr took it back.
Must say for weight to speed it isn’t Bad.

Also the 1307 T&T is not bad for a light end.
I use both 6/7 XLT and the 6/7 - 7/8 Mid and Long Deltas


Give me a e-mail




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The GLX 13 ft 8/9 is the fastest 13 ft for an 8 or 9 line on the market, which is why I bought one 6 years ago, and as a bonus, it has plenty of power too. The T&T 1309 is my second favorite 13 ft fast-action 8 or 9 rod. The Loop Green Series 13 ft is my third favorite. The Loomis Trilogy is another possible choice; although it is a little slower and has a different action and feel from the GLX. The Hardy GEM is another possibility.

I've not cast any of Meiser's extra-fast rods; however, based on other Meiser rods that I have cast I am sure that his 13 ft extra-fast that Speybum mentioned would be another rod for you to consider for a fast-action 13 ft 8 or 9 rod. Meiser will not steer anyone wrong regarding the type of rod a person wants. If he has a rod that meets your requirements, he will tell you; likewise, if he doesn't have one of the type you are looking for, he will tell you that as well.

Sage does not make a true fast-action 2-hander, as you already found out, and neither does Scott.
 

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T & T 1208-4, particularly for non-spey casting. Faster than most rods in that range of length.
 

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Loop Greyline...13' #9.

Is a gun with a 9/10/11 Windcutter or if it is your gig, the Loop Adapated Heads. It is however a touchy rod and you need to hit it just right with good timing to get it work-when it does it generates more line speed then any other rod I have played with. It is however, too unforgiving for my tastes.
 

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Peter,

Let me know before the next one and I will see if I can send you a care package.

They are some neat sticks.



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If fast is what you want try the T&T 1309-3
I cannot imagine the need for a rod faster than that.
 

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Hello Rob

The best fast action on the market is in my eyes the Loomis GLX 13ft 8/9.
A other very interest rod is the new GLX 12,6ft 8/9, this rod has more tip action than the 13ft and works absolute perfect with shooting heads for underhand cast.
On the 12,6ft you need a little more weight on the shooting heads, than on the 13ft.

Taki
 

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Rob, I forgot to tell you from the new Guideline LPXe 13ft 8/9.
It is for the price the best rod that I have cast.
This new Guideline product was sold out in Scandinavien for the 2003 season.
The rod has a fast tip action,is leight weight like a GLX and looks like a GLX. Retail price for the rod is in Germany by 350Euro when you can get one.
 

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I own three rods that I think fit your requirements, the T & T DH 1208-3 & DH 1212-3, and the Temple Forks 12'6" 8/9-weight. I have cast all of them with the the Rio 8/9 Scandi head and would rate all of them as, " Very fast."
 

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G.Loomis 13´ 8-9 rod or 12´6 9-10 rod, these are the best all round rods for underhand casting , short and powerfull and very light.

Loop greenline might be one to think aswell.
 

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Rob,

Loop Green 8124-4 or 9132-4

The Loop Blacks are not as fast as the Greens--the Blacks are more like the Blues, which are faster than the Yellows...

Also, I REALLY like the GLoomis GLX 12ft6in rods--I'll be reviewing them soon on the speypages.
 

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Thanks!

Thank you all for your input! I was thinking of looking into faster rods since I've been casting the Fly Logic 8wt for a few years. I've seen a few interesting casters that use fast rods and would like to mimic their technique, but can't because my Fly Logic is pretty slow. (Admittedly, this is partially because I have it overlined w/ a 9/10/11 windcutter.)

The only time I met him, Ed Ward was using the same Fly Logic rod, using a custom Skagit line to throw an intruder. He said the heavy line made it easier to throw the big flies. I have since rigged up a similar line and had some success throwing similar big lead eyed flies. What does a caster like Simon Gawesworth (fast rods / no overline) do to deliver those large flies?

I'd prefer my casting to look like Simon's, but I don't see how I could cast those big monsters on a fast rod and (comparatively) light line.
 

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Check out the CND Rods

It sounds like you are looking for something more like the CND Skagit Specialist rod. This rod lined with the proper line would work very well for what you are attempting to do. I dont know what the perfect line is for this rod since I havent had a chance to play with it yet? But I am seriously considering picking one of these up for the exact same reason that you have mentioned. Currently I have a Sage 9140 set up with a Midspey line. Works very well under most ciscumstances but I would love to have a rod designed specifically for SKAGIT style casting with enough back bone to throw some seriously large and or heavy flies. Good Luck and let us know what you end up with.
 

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Rob,

Simon does the same thing that other folks who use the classic spey casts with mid- to extended belly lines do to cast the big flies: uses a 10 or 11 wt rod to do it. This way the rod is not overlined and it retains its nice, fast-action while being able to toss flies as large as you wish. There are several 14 ft 10 wt rods on the market (T&T, Loomis, CND, Meiser, Lamiglas, Talon to name some of the better known ones) that would do this on your typically smaller Midwestern rivers. There are a few 13 ft 10 wts on the market (Loomis, Meiser, Talon) that would do this as well.
 
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