I just finished reading all of the reviews on the Spey Pages site under the link "Rod Reviews" (are these all by Dana?) and found only two comments that were even nearly negative in all of the reviews. The first was about the weight of the Winston Derek Brown rod, and the second was the poor design of the reel seat and butt cap on the Orvis rod. I frankly find it hard to believe that this was the extent of the shortcomings of these rods. Now I must say in all fairness that I only have experience with a few of the Sage models. Are there owners of any of these models that were reviewed that care to chime in? I must say I find it very frustrating when reading reviews particularly in magazines that never slam a product as "sucking". I can only imagine it's one of these conflict of interest situations. I apologize if this has already been brought up, but I didn't feel like doing a search.