Up Eye or Straight Eye bait hooks for Tubes?

Tube fly? Straight eye...

I use straight-eyed hooks on tube flies, point up. I use the up-eyed hooks on intruder type patterns with a trailing loop.

Doesn't really make a difference. It really just depends on the way you want to rig up.

If pegging the hook in the back of the tube or in junction tubing I like a straight eye for aesthetics and keeping everything looking in line. If trailing a hook I like to use a loop, stinger hook style, so use an up eye hook. I usually try and orient the hook point to ride up.

I like straight eye for tubes (most of which I fish) and up eyes for trailers, if you don't want the Owner's, I'd be glad to take them off your hands! haha

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A #4 ring eye hook.

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For clarification, I want to use the bait hooks for trailing out the back of a simple Tube Fly--Not for Intruders!----I am tying the hook on the mono coming out of the tube.---What is the advantage of using an "up-eye" hook for this application vs a straight Bait hook?
Thanks for everyone's help in clarifying this for me!

Bill

Hi Bill,

I use them both, hook style that is. I do find that the ball eye hooks work better if I intend to tuck the eye into the extension tube. I use a jam knot when attaching the hook and when using up eye hooks I make the distance between the jam knot and the hook eye a little longer so that the eye is right at the back of the tubing. For reference I tie on Pro Tube tubes.

Ard

beatle said:

For clarification, I want to use the bait hooks for trailing out the back of a simple Tube Fly--Not for Intruders!----I am tying the hook on the mono coming out of the tube.---What is the advantage of using an "up-eye" hook for this application vs a straight Bait hook?
Thanks for everyone's help in clarifying this for me!

Bill

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For a 'free swinging hook' (Intruder style fly) you can use pretty much what ever you want. If this is attached/coming off the back of a tube fly then the straight ring eye will be far more effective when it comes to 'hook ups.'

Some good videos on rigging, knots, hooks and hook-orientation for tube flies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIL-7HFd84g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EahtaHaNjnY

beatle said:

For clarification, I want to use the bait hooks for trailing out the back of a simple Tube Fly--Not for Intruders!----I am tying the hook on the mono coming out of the tube.---What is the advantage of using an "up-eye" hook for this application vs a straight Bait hook?


Bill

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The advantage (in my opinion) is tying a loop knot for your terminal. Pinch it and come through the hook eye from the bottom then over back of bend for a nice inline connection. Pull the knot inside the tube, they'll usually tighten up when you near the thread wraps. After a few knots it's easy to get a feel for the right length loop for hook placement behind the fly. An additional bonus is that about 50% of the time when hung the loop will break but your knot will remain.. and you get the fly back. Double or triple surgeon loop is common.

MikeB has it right.. post #4

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Thanks guys!---some great ideas and Videos

Bill

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I've used both, but for tubes, I definitely prefer the straight eye for all the reasons already mentioned. If you get stuck with only "up-eyes", use an egg loop knot with a small bead. Not ideal, but it will work.

Straight eye's for me too.

I use straight eye hooks on tubes and upturned eye hooks on stinger loop flies (intruder).

I fish with the hook point below the fly regularly, but if I'm fishing shallow/snaggy water I fish with the hook point turned up.

I also frequently use barbless double hooks with my tubes, I feel like they help stabilize the fly in the water, preventing spinning .

Tubes

Wondering if the straight eye faction are all using junction tubing? If not, how are you rigging for 'free swinging' hook (no junction tubing)

Thanks for insight.

shotgunner said:

Wondering if the straight eye faction are all using junction tubing? If not, how are you rigging for 'free swinging' hook (no junction tubing)

Thanks for insight.

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I generally use junction tubing, but if the hook has a small eye or if I go without the tubing, I use a non-slip loop knot.

shotgunner said:

Wondering if the straight eye faction are all using junction tubing? If not, how are you rigging for 'free swinging' hook (no junction tubing)

Thanks for insight.

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I use Heritage Angling Products and Eumer tubing, no junction tubing required. When I did use free hanging hooks (I haven't in awhile) I used a loop knot with a bead to keep the knot from being sucked into the tubing too far.