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i have a sage 9141 that is an ok spey casting rod, but an outstanding overhead casting rod, maybe it is just my casting skills that is limiting me to its potential. I am looking for a true speycasting rod and i am looking at the cnd steelhead specialist, just curious as to some thoughts on that rod and additional rods. thanks.
 
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The term"true" spey rod must have been coined by Mike Maxwell. He used it to differentiate between the more progressive type rods that were beginning to become popular in the PNW and the very soft, almost noodly, spey rods made by his company, Gold-N-West. Similar rods were (and still are) also available in the UK. Even the Sage traditional and other rods that were similar were nowhere near as soft as these "true" spey rods. Before you spring for one, do yourself a favor and try it first. They tend to be heavy for their length and are decidedly tip-heavy. At least most of the ones I've tried are that way. Mike's own rod designs were most recently featured on some Lamiglass rods. I'm not sure those are still in production, but they have been recently enough that you shouldn't have much trouble locating one. Remember, give one a try first-preferably on water. I think you'll find that you will prefer the CND and other traditional actions more than a "true" spey rod.
 

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bad use of words

I guess my explanation of what i wanted was bad, but i'm not looking for a heavy "noodle" rod, i just want something that isn't fast action and a bit more progressive that has a heavy enough tip that it will be up to the task of making good distance spey casts with tips.

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I have cast the 9141 sage and there is absolutly nothing wrong with it in terms of spey casting. In fact action has nothing to do with a rods ability to spey cast. It's ALL in learning to cast the different actions...
 

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It sounds like you are looking for something like the Loop Black or Yellow Series, the CND Expert or Custom Series, Burkheimer, Winston Derek Brown, or the Heritage rods. The Lamiglas rods referenced above might also fit what you are looking for. You could also have Meiser build one for you that meets what you are looking for.

The Sage 9141 is really a medium action, somewhat tippy rod. For a true fast-action, you need to go to T&T, Loomis GLX, or Loop Green Series rods.
 
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