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I just returned from a salmon trip where I used some intruder-type flies tied on waddington shanks. In two instances, once for me and once for a buddy, the trailing hook was hooked to the main part of the fly.

Have others experienced this problem??

It certainly doesn't happen all the time, but twice is too many times. I'm thinking about staying with tube flies, where that never happens.
 

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What were you using for wire? I love the Senyo Intruder Wire. I've never had that happen to me with that stuff....but it did happen now and again with mono or other line material.
 

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I can't recall the name of the "wire" but it's moderately stiff and about .015". As I recall, it might have come from Orvis.
 

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I missed a fish last week due to this problem. I was using 49 strand bead wire. Normally it never tangles but what I found is if the loop is too long there's the ability to tangle. If I keep the loop small it remains stiffer and never tangles.
 

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I missed a fish last week due to this problem. I was using 49 strand bead wire. Normally it never tangles but what I found is if the loop is too long there's the ability to tangle. If I keep the loop small it remains stiffer and never tangles.
Thats the key for me, i used to use beadalon (cant remember the last time i fished a stinger though) and its stiff enough to usually be okay but if you shorten it up it wont get fouled and i find i have better hook ups... I dont worry about changing hooks, i enjoy tying enough that I would rather just wrap up some more.
 

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Another vote for the Senyo wire. Comes in different colours which dresses up the fly a bit. I think it is great stuff.
 

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I usually put a bead or 2 on mine, on the wire between the front half and the back. Seems to help them not get tangled up.
 

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How does the senyo wire hold up after you've fought a fish on that fly... do you just pull it straight again or does it stay bent?
 

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Use tubes, you won't have that problem
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I've used everything from fly line backing to the wire, the wire will never loop up and catch the eye or materials. However, I do like something a bit more supple attached to the trailing hook so............. You learn to spot when something hinky happens with a cast; just like spotting when you've made a knot in a leader with a fouled cast you spot those that have had a negative effect on the fly.

That may sound sort of like I recommend using an inferior component but if you don't like the stiff wire connection you just have to watch closer. It's like fishing feather wing flies, sometimes the wings get wrapped around the hook causing the fly to spin on the swing. I've never caught a fish when a feather wing was swimming weird so I watch them when I'm casting. If you see something that doesn't look right it probably isn't.

Keep a close eye on what's going on at the leader - fly area and fish whatever you want or have :)

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