[tonyd]

I am going to be doing a bunch of loop systems soon and can't remember what it is that one uses to thin Aquaseal for coating the braided loops?

I know it's a common practice,but could anyone tell me what I need(to thin it down) besides Aquaseal?

Thanks.

 

[Penguin]

Better living thru chemistry?!

Keep a window open...ventilation helps prevent Drain Bramage!
A cheap lifetime supply or a costly Cotol-240 alternative (convenient/stylish glass bottle)...
Mix 1 part toluene with 2 - 3 parts Aquaseal...
Set up time will be an hour or two +/- ...

 

[kush]

Penguin forgot to mention his preferred application method. That is, pour a small amount of the toluene into a sturdy paper bag, place the loop into the bag and immersed in the stuff. Now here is the important part of Pete's system - firmly press the opening of the bag around your face and keep an eye on the loop as it sets up. Two minutes of checking every twenty minutes should suffice..

Aphter a phew of theze loopz you too will think every day is Saturday and will phit right in at the phamous Area 61 on Cape Cod (the Phar Side)... :smokin:

 

[salmo]

You can also use Propyl acetate, used as a nail polish cleaner.
Instead Aqaseal you can use commonly available Goop glue( very thick) which has the same formula as Aquaseal ( polyurethane glue).In this case ( for loops) use about 1 volume part of Goop and 1-2 part of Toluene or Propyl acetate, depending how think mixture you want.

Salmo

 

[Penguin]

PNW 2-hand technique...

as Kush described...

 

[Big K1]

Wow Man! :whoa:

 

[SSPey]

Penguin -

when you say lifetime supply, can you premix and let the stuff sit around in a sealed container for later use?

 

[Penguin]

A lifetime supply of...

toluene solvent...
I've always mixed the two as I go...I don't think the doped Aquaseal "keeps"?!

When Aquaseal is "cut" with toluene it simply forms a thinner more volatile diluted mixture that evaporates much more quickly and sets up in a few hours...
As opposed to waiting overnight for the Aquaseal alone to be ready...

 

[JimW]

The following was taken from the atsdr site.

How can toluene affect my health?
Toluene may affect the nervous system. Low to moderate levles can cause tiredness, confusion, weakness, drunken-type actions, memory loss, nausea, loss of appetite, and hearing and color vision loss. These symptoms usually disappear when exposure is stopped.

Inhaling High levels of toluene in a short time can make you feel light-headed, dizzy, or sleepy. It can also cause unconsciousness, and even death.

High levels of toluene may affect your kidneys.

Just say No to this stuff.

I am going to be doing a bunch of loop systems soon and can't remember what it is that one uses to thin Aquaseal for coating the braided loops?

Tony,
Note that memory loss is a side effect of exposure. :Eyecrazy:

 

[Penguin]

I was going to say something...

...but I forgot?!

The mind is a terrible thing to lose!
...and ANOTHER good reason to just say NO to SOFTEX! :tsk_tsk:

 

[doublespey]

Thanks to Kush and Penguin, I now know where the term "LOOPED" came from! :chuckle: :lildevl:

DS

 

[tonyd]

Thanks everyone!

I've used the Cotol before(that was what I was thinking of).It came in a package of Aquaseal(about $5 more than just Aquaseal alone) and was described as an accelerating agent to help make it dry faster).

I rememeber it smelled,but not that bad or strong.I mixed the stuff and put it on my loops outside so there was no problem of ventilation and within 1/2 hr they were pretty much set and dry.Unfortunately that little bottle didn't last very long and at least 1/2 of it dried up on me.

Glad to hear there are better alternatives as far as cost goes.

I have both Aquaseal and Marine GOOP and found that the GOOP was really difficult to work with.It is liquid and workable as soon as it comes out of the tube,but begins setting and clumping almost immediately.I couldn't even apply a coating around the nail knots on the base of my loops before it solidified and the only way I could get it to spread around the whole thing was to wet my finger and roll it around like putty.I didn't like the stuff at all compared to Aquaseal(which at least stays workable for quite a while and flows smoothly over whatever surface you put it on instead of clumping),but will try it out again with the thinner.

I certainly would use any of this stuff inside the house in a closed room,but when you do it outside there's little to no risk from the fumes.Of course given the kind of year I've had,maybe I should use it in a closed room. :wink: A little memory loss could do me wonders. :hihi:

 

[t_richerzhagen]

Use AquaFlex

a water based coating that works very well in coating loops. This avoids some of the problems with volatile organics.

 

[Brian Simonseth]

Ted you and I will save the rest of the members by telling them to USE AQUA FLEX!

You know how those boys are up NORTH!

 

[SSPey]

I don't know what Aquaflex is, but I use Loon Soft Head. Is this Aquaflex stuff available at hardware stores?

 

[Brian Simonseth]

Call River Run Anglers

Aaron has it in stock

RIVER RUN ANGLERS

Carnation, WA

(425) 333-4446

[email protected]

 

[Moose]

What Penguins picture doesn't show is

the Toluene filled bong in that bag! :smokin:

And when he pulls his face out of the bag it looks like Simonseth's Avatar photo (see above pic).

 

[Brian Simonseth]

Hey now!

Curly didn't need that!

He's my main MAN!