Anyone get a chance to read that article in Fly Fish America which reviewed a number of large arbor reels for among other things "start-up inertia" and "Max drag settings"? Any thoughts on the role/importance these play in selecting a good steelie reel? I just purchased the Loop Evotec 8/12 which even at it's lowest drag setting seems to have a fair amount of resistance to letting line out. My concern is that if fishing for big BC steelies with dry fly and lighter tippets I may run into trouble. I also think that there may be some typos in the article. For example it lists the Loop 3W as having a "start-up inertia" of 15.59% and a max drag setting of 9lbs. 9 oz. (keeping in mind that it doesn't have a drag, i don't think) while the Loop Evotec LW 8/11 has a "start-up inertia" of only 3.93% and a max drag setting of only 1 lbs 11oz. Could someone who was paying better attention during college physics please explain? Thanks.
Test Results for large arbor reels???
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...majored in Lit, but the drag setting info is clearly reversed on the two reels. I have both and the 3W does not have a drag, just a simple tension adjustment system that, along with low start up inertia and large arbor design, prevents backspooling of the reel even at very light settings. The LW reels have an adjustable drag system accessed by removing the drag adjustment knob on the reel. I have the 8eleven and 8twelve reels and have them set very lightly at their initial drag setting (I don't tend to use much drag on steelhead anyways) and have connected with larger Dean steelhead on tippets as light as 8lbs without trouble.
...majored in Lit, but the drag setting info is clearly reversed on the two reels. I have both and the 3W does not have a drag, just a simple tension adjustment system that, along with low start up inertia and large arbor design, prevents backspooling of the reel even at very light settings. The LW reels have an adjustable drag system accessed by removing the drag adjustment knob on the reel. I have the 8eleven and 8twelve reels and have them set very lightly at their initial drag setting (I don't tend to use much drag on steelhead anyways) and have connected with larger Dean steelhead on tippets as light as 8lbs without trouble.
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I fish a number of disc dragged reels but they are not needed for most steelheading. Remember there have been far more steelhead landed on a click and pawl reel that any other type.
Don't worry, the Evotec will treat you great. It is a beautiful reel and more than enough for any steelhead that swims.
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As has been stated in hear many times, these fish are not leader shy. If you are fishing for big BC fish, the lightest tippet you would want to go with, regardless of reel and drag settings, is 12#.
I fish a number of disc dragged reels but they are not needed for most steelheading. Remember there have been far more steelhead landed on a click and pawl reel that any other type.
Don't worry, the Evotec will treat you great. It is a beautiful reel and more than enough for any steelhead that swims.
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I too saw this article and was not sure about the numbers regarding the loop reel? However I have had reels with tension adjustments or true drag systems and if not set correctly I have broken off fish on the strike. Not really the reels fault as much as me not checking it prior to making that first cast. I use a JRyall Standard #12 on my spey rod and love the drage system on this reel. It seems to have an infinite amount of adjustability and if I didnt know better I swear I could stop a semi with that thing. While I do not believe that a drag of this type and or quality is needed in Steelhead fishing I do love it for the ability to adjust initial inertia setting/drag so that it starts up smooth and doesnt create a backlash or break the tippet on aggressive strikes. Good Luck and Tight Lines!:smokin:
I too saw this article and was not sure about the numbers regarding the loop reel? However I have had reels with tension adjustments or true drag systems and if not set correctly I have broken off fish on the strike. Not really the reels fault as much as me not checking it prior to making that first cast. I use a JRyall Standard #12 on my spey rod and love the drage system on this reel. It seems to have an infinite amount of adjustability and if I didnt know better I swear I could stop a semi with that thing. While I do not believe that a drag of this type and or quality is needed in Steelhead fishing I do love it for the ability to adjust initial inertia setting/drag so that it starts up smooth and doesnt create a backlash or break the tippet on aggressive strikes. Good Luck and Tight Lines!:smokin:
An important part of reel selection is that the rod, with reel and line, and body and tip of fly line hanging [outside the tip top] on the ground or still water, balances at the point on the upper grip where the caster places the upper hand.
It is comparatively more tiring to cast a rod that is improperly balanced vs. balanced at the hand's upper grip point. With my 14 foot 9 weight rod, the largest Ryall reel, with line, is too light.
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It is comparatively more tiring to cast a rod that is improperly balanced vs. balanced at the hand's upper grip point. With my 14 foot 9 weight rod, the largest Ryall reel, with line, is too light.
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I agree with you that a balanced rod is more important than what you paid for it or how it looks. Fishing an unbalanced rod can be an aggravating experinece. I put the JRyall on a Sage 9140 and it balances out perfectly? I tried a couple other reels such as the loop 3W, 4W and a couple of the Hardy's. Most of these were too light. The loop 4W was the best for balance but they dont make it anymore? So I went with the Jryall. So far I have no complaints with the rod/reel setup.:smokin:
I agree with you that a balanced rod is more important than what you paid for it or how it looks. Fishing an unbalanced rod can be an aggravating experinece. I put the JRyall on a Sage 9140 and it balances out perfectly? I tried a couple other reels such as the loop 3W, 4W and a couple of the Hardy's. Most of these were too light. The loop 4W was the best for balance but they dont make it anymore? So I went with the Jryall. So far I have no complaints with the rod/reel setup.:smokin:
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