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T&T 15' 11wt sink tips?

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I have a T&T 15' 11wt. that I have only used a floating DT line on. Am exploring different sinktip options. Wondering if anyone out there has experience with tips on this rod.
Will appreciate any comments and experiences.
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Green Butt,

I fish the T&T 16 foot 11 weight, which is very similar to your 15' 11 wgt, and have been doing so for 6 years. I use 12 weight sinking tips of type 3, 4, and 6 that are usually 15' long. I also use 14 1/2 feet of 550 gr. Deep Water Express and 11 feet of 700 gr. Deep Water Express. These tips are fished on a RIO Windcutter 10/11/12 that I cut 17 feet from the end for a floating tip, and again at 25 feet from the end. I throw the second piece (the one 25 feet from the end) away and put use a Windcutter Upgrade 10/11/12 in its place. This gives me a line that has a belly/front taper of 74 or so feet. I also keep the front 17 feet and turn it into my floating tip after cutting off 2 feet of it from the tip.

It is a lot of grains though (very close to 1100) and the line weight plus the belly length may not be for you. Casting it is easy when you learn where to place the line, how to move the longer belly, and where to place the fly prior to launching the cast.

You may be better off using the Windcutter without the upgrade with the 12 weight and Deep Water express tips I use unless you have learned how to master the long belly or double taper lines.

This rod, like the other 11 weights, is a cannon and is too much rod for many people. But I love my 1611 (almost bought the 1511 but wanted the extra length) and wish T&T, Scott, or Loomis would make a 17 or 18 foot 11 weight. Man, that would be some rod for winter fishing. I can see the line rolling out and the mends being made already.
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I have a T&T 15-foot #ll - a real Kenworth of a rod, and about as practical for all-around use. Mine requires a #12 line, either a DT12 or a long-belly "spey-driver" I spliced together. I used it almost entirely with sink-tips, none heavier than 10-weight, although it could handle at least a size heavier, I'm sure. To me, there's a wide gulf of comfort and practicality between a 12-wt. line and an 11-weight; I'm happy with the latter for winter-spring fishing.
T&T 15' #11 easily manages Teeny XD 500 with extrasuperfast sinking leaders: you may cast it with underhand technique with a single roll cast to pull-up. Using some kind of double spey-like underhand cast, you don't need an additional roll to pull-up.

My friend fishes on Kola river with this rod in early spring, when the water is very high and cold. He also use Lee Wulff TT Spey 80' head #11 with different Airflo polyleaders, including ESF sinking.

I've try it, it seems very hard for me, especially for floating line fishig. It is difficult to manage a small salmon about 5-8 lbs.
Thanks for the input.
Believe it or not I actually learned to spey cast on this rod , and even caught a 31" hen my first time out ever with this rod [which also happened to be my birthday--a great present] I learned totally on my own just after watching a video. There was alot of frustration you can be sure in the process. I am now in my second year of spey casting and only wished I had discovered the computer and this forum before I began.
Anyway, I am now using another rod for this summer but want to set up something for deep dredging for this winter. My first inclination was to got to a setup similar to what "flytyer" has suggested. Have to do some thinking about whether to go with a #11 or #12 line. I tend to like the longer bellied line as that is all I ever used until this summer. Will also do some research and thinking on these other setups Throwing these heavier sinktips is going to be my quest for this winter.
Thanks much guys,
Green Butt
My 16' 11 weight T&T balances properly with a Rio MidSpey 10-11 line set, which includes 3 sink tips of 15 foot length. The WindCutter 11 weight multi-tip line is too light for this rod. The T&T handles all 15 foot tips readily, and one does not have to roll cast the 15' sink tips up on top of the water to begin a good cast.

Going to the heavier, Rio Big Boy series, 24' tips, one removes tip 1 and tip 2 from the MidSpey line and installs the Big Boy. The rod casts effortlessly with a 300 grain Big Boy 24' tip and handles the 400 grain tip very well.
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