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I have been playing around with the 1409-3 and the Carron 10/11 and love it.
I was wondering what lines other people like on this rod. I am going to try a
older 8/9 midspey cut back for tips this weekend. I am looking for my new
winter stick so tip line ideas would be welcome as well as floaters for fun.
Short or long I want to here them all. I have heard the 5 piece is a tad slower.
I would also like to here the opinion on the differences of the two from everyone who has cast both rods.

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Kevin the midspey (old) 9/10 works very well with the 3 piece version. full length line and 12' sinking leaders are a joy to cast with this rod. i have not fished the 5 piece but to lawn cast the 5 piece feels a little stiffer than the 3.
 

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5-piece vs 3-piece T&T 1409

Kevin, from my post in June 2004:

I was surprised by the T&T 5 piece 1409

At Kiene's Sacramento Spey Clave on the American River yesterday, all participants had the opportunity to cast T&T, Sage, Scott and Loomis rods. Many thanks to Dale Hightower [T&T], John Sherman [Sage], Jason Lozano [Scott] and the gentlemen from Loomis whose names I did not get.

And thanks to Bill Kiene, Jeff Putnam, Adam Grace and all that made this a worthwhile event.

While discussing the T&T range of rods, Dale mentioned the 1409 5-piece was a different rod than the 1409 3-piece. This caught my attention because the 3-piece is my primary rod and the general consensus in my part of the Spey world was that the two rods were essentially alike. Note the word "was" in the previous sentence. For sure, the 5-piece is quite different, being slower and with, to use Dale's words, "more butt swing."

The purpose of this thread is advise folks contemplating the T&T 1409 series to cast both the 3- and 5-piece rod. If the 3-piece is a bit fast for your taste, try the 5-piece.
 

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Keven,

As Bob has already noted, the 5-piece is a bit slower than the 3-piece, although the cast the same lines. Because I like the nice, crisp action of the rod, I prefer to use the 8/9 mid-belly lines on either version of the rod since it is a 9 wt (or 8/9 in the more commonly used terminology). If you want to have the rod bend more when casting, simply go up to the 9/10 mid-belly lines as Black Francis mentioned. The new 8/9 GS with its 800 gr and 80' belly ought to be spectacular on the 1409 (either the 3 or 5-piece versions) since it is 50 gr lighter than the 10/11 Carron. And when SA gets the XLT re-designed to the new spey standard on the market, an 8/9 XLT should also be a superb match for the rod.
 

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Thanks guys for the responses.
I have the new 7/8 GS I am going to try on the 1409-3 . It might be a tad light at 700 grns. I will see tomorrow.
 
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