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I would appreciate some comments about T&T DH1409-3 ( 14', wt. 9, 3pc.) vs. Scott SAS 14', wt.9 ,3 pc.
Many casters claim that both rods are very similar.
Any differences in casting floater or sinking tips?

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Salmo
 

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These are very different rods. Yes, they both cast the same lines and are both 14 ft long; however, that is where the similarity ends.

The T&T 1409-3 is a fast-actioned powerful 9wt. 2-hander. It is a great rod for those who like fast-actioned 2-handers due to its wonderful casting. But if a person does not like a fast rod, he will not be happy with the T&T, it is a very quick rod. It can easily cast farther than most people will ever want to cast when fishing. And it handles both 8 and 9 wt sinktips very well as well as being a superb dry line rod.

The Scott SAS is a medium-action rod, definitely not as fast or quick as the T&T. It is also a 9wt rod that will cast sinktips and fairly large flies. However, it is not as powerful, and not nearly as fast as the T&T. It has a more languid casting cycle and uses a slower series of casting motions than the T&T as a result. It will easily cast fishing distances with sinktips or floating line. It is a very good rod, just slower than the T&T with a bit less power in the butt. The vast majority of casters who like rods a bit to the fast side of medium will like this rod.

I prefer fast-action rods, whether single-hand or 2-hand and as a result I have a decided preference for the T&T 1409 over the Scott SAS. The SAS is several hundred dollars cheaper than the T&T and that may be a consideration for some.

The bottom line is if you like a fast rod, the T&T is the way to go; if you like medium rods, the SAS is the way to go.
 

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Scott SAS line

My local fly shop has told me that Scott is disconinuing the SAS line, at least for single handed rods. Is there any word on their two-handers?
 

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Sorry, correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought the Scott Alpha series was extremely quick? Or at least that's what I have heard...
 

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Scott is discontinuing the SAS series. That's why you see them discounted everywhere. The rod that replaces them is the A2. A friend of mine who went to the Denver show cast the 10' 8 weight and thought it was faster than the SAS and much improved.
 

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ScottK,

The SAS 2-handers are not fast rods. They are medium 2-handers. Fast 2-handers have actions like the T&T, GLX, and Loop Green Series 2-handers.

I suspect the confusion about the SAS 2-handers being fast rods is that most folks compare them to the older Sage "Traditional Action" spey rods, which are very slow 2-handers. Most any rod feels fast compared to the Sage Traditional Speys.
 

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SAS fast or medium?

I like fast rods, and I like the SAS. I have the 1308. I consider them faster than the Scott Arc series which I consider to be medium. I guess FAST is relative!
 

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The SAS 2-handers are faster than the ARC's; however, they are not nearly as fast as T&T, GLX, or Loop Green Series 2-handers. Fast is only relative if you have not cast one of the true fast-action 2-handers along with medium and slow 2-handers to be able to compare one rod's fastness with another's.
 
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