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Trying this again, read the book last night. Decided to give it a go with hackle tips
 

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Great colours and an excellent effort !!
One suggestion, try to line up the end of the wing with the bend of the hook. It will bring the fly into proportion and be more pleasing to your eye.


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try to limit the amount of thread wraps you use to tie off the hackle. This will help the wing lay parallel to the hook shank. sometimes to get it to sit right I will bend the stems of the hackle tips down at the tie off point or strip the feathers off the underside of the wings where they would touch the hackle. That fly looks great but the wing is to vertical in my opinion.

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Great colours and an excellent effort !!
One suggestion, try to line up the end of the wing with the bend of the hook. It will bring the fly into proportion and be more pleasing to your eye.


Mike
Thanks Mike, I appreciate the help
Nice job. Dig the colors too. Fish catcher there.

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Thanks Nate
try to limit the amount of thread wraps you use to tie off the hackle. This will help the wing lay parallel to the hook shank. sometimes to get it to sit right I will bend the stems of the hackle tips down at the tie off point or strip the feathers off the underside of the wings where they would touch the hackle. That fly looks great but the wing is to vertical in my opinion.

Mike
Thanks man! I’ll try that
 

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Very nice job there Yooper. Thanks for sharing it with is. Better than my first attempt of a spey style fly. There are very few fly tiers out there that were naturals. Practice, trying different techniques and using good materials all help to have it fall into place.
 

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As regards the somewhat too long and too high wing, I think it is fine the way it is. Here's why - current. I have noted that in currents 2 fps or higher, fly hackle and wings get compressed against the body of the fly. Tying them so they stick up a bit would reduce that compression. And when tied in a tad long, poking them up a bit prevents wing fouling on the hook, which seems to happen surprisingly often. Mike is right about the wing with regard to tradition, but I doubt the fish would care. It is a bit tricky to get them to lay tight to the body and I suppose doing so well is a sign of craftmanship. BTW - I really like the body of the fly.
 

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That fly will definitely catch fish. However, I think we're all shooting for the aesthetics of classic ties. I am not as skilled as many on this forum, but would work on the following: 1. shorten the hackle tips as previously mentioned. There are ways to get them to lay down from pinching to a wet paper towel. 2. fewer wraps of tinsel on a hook of that length, 3. spey flies just seem to work better on hooks with longer shanks. Hair wings look better on hooks with short shanks, but speys are long and flowing. It's been great to watch your evolution as a tier. You work hard and are open to suggestions. You will master this style in the same way you have mastered others. Good luck!
 

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Very nice job there Yooper. Thanks for sharing it with is. Better than my first attempt of a spey style fly. There are very few fly tiers out there that were naturals. Practice, trying different techniques and using good materials all help to have it fall into place.
Thanks man!

As regards the somewhat too long and too high wing, I think it is fine the way it is. Here's why - current. I have noted that in currents 2 fps or higher, fly hackle and wings get compressed against the body of the fly. Tying them so they stick up a bit would reduce that compression. And when tied in a tad long, poking them up a bit prevents wing fouling on the hook, which seems to happen surprisingly often. Mike is right about the wing with regard to tradition, but I doubt the fish would care. It is a bit tricky to get them to lay tight to the body and I suppose doing so well is a sign of craftmanship. BTW - I really like the body of the fly.
Thanks my friend!

Id fish it with confidence as it is. Good job, and good advice offered above. Well done. <img src="http://www.speypages.com/speyclave/images/smilies/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smokin" class="inlineimg" />
Thanks buddy, yes as well to the great advice. Everyone has offered the same advice pretty much here and on other forums. I love constructive criticism! It is most helpful when people don’t just BS you

That fly will definitely catch fish. However, I think we're all shooting for the aesthetics of classic ties. I am not as skilled as many on this forum, but would work on the following: 1. shorten the hackle tips as previously mentioned. There are ways to get them to lay down from pinching to a wet paper towel. 2. fewer wraps of tinsel on a hook of that length, 3. spey flies just seem to work better on hooks with longer shanks. Hair wings look better on hooks with short shanks, but speys are long and flowing. It's been great to watch your evolution as a tier. You work hard and are open to suggestions. You will master this style in the same way you have mastered others. Good luck!
Thank you so much for the kind and encouraging words here. I appreciate it very much
 
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