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I'm embarrassed to ask this question, but here goes any way:

Can anyone tell me why spey hooks/salmon/steelhead hooks are up-eyed and why they have loop eyes?

I'm using down-eye (Tiemco 700's) and straight-eye (Tiemco 777SP's) for my salmon/steelhead flies. Have I missed the drift boat?
 

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Aesthetics has a lot to do with it; as well as tradition.

Originally hooks for Atlantic salmon flies were blind, that is, they had no eyes. An attachment was formed by making a loop of gut at the end of the hook as the fly was being tied.

Later, a metal loop eye was developed that roughly resembled the gut eyes. When the gut eyes were knotted on to the leader, using a Turle knot or similar, the gut loop was positioned at a slight upward angle. I think the manufacturers just retained this look in the metal eyes.

The turned-up-loop-eye hook (TULE) has become the standard for dressing elegant steelhead and Atlantic salmon flies (except for the real purists, who still use blind hooks and gut loops).

For practical justification, The TULE hook is very easy to attached with a double Turle and, thus tied, fishes very nice and straight.

There is also an added safety factor in the looped eye, as it will never straighten out, as ringed eyed hooks may (rarely) do. Also, there's no way the leader can catch and fray in a partially opened eye.

How these hooks came to be japanned (black laquered) rather than bronzed, I don't know.

Years ago, when I started steelheading, I was desparate to get TULE hooks. They were really hard to come by; now excellent quality TULE hooks are readily available from a number of makers in all sorts of styles, wire thicknesses and lengths. Ain't life grand.

Hope this helps.
 

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The first time I saw a salmon fly hook and inquired about the eye shape, I was told that the return loop gave a larger area on which to pile all the wing materials. I dunno, maybe that was just a lame excuse for the ugly return loops on a Mustad 36890.
 

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What I want to know is why some of these "Spey" hooks have to cost $0.50 or more apiece? Thats enough to make me a believer in tube flies.

JD
 

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JD, the new Tiemco 777SP's that I'm using are about $0.70 (US) a piece! Even at this price, I'd recommend them for salmon/steelhead flies.
 

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Hi there been busy tiying a range of allys shrimps and the silkcut shrimps on single irons and have noticed that there are some really good but expensive hooks out there , also there are some real bargains ,There is a small 3 man band making fly hooks in redditch called Sprite they make all their hooks by hand and have a limmited range but for us this side of the atlantic they are just great and sensible price .
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As an aside to the above , we still use doubles and trebles the good partridge X2B cost nearly a pound a peice and to me represent great value when you see the work that goes into making one
 
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