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If you are upset why not vote the video down - he will get the message a little eventually. Better yet, let him know - politely. If you just rage-view it you are giving him views, and so may be inadvertently giving net encouragement.

I know getting rage-view hits is sometimes an actual tactic, but this one has so few likes you could do some serious counter “messaging”. Just saying! >:)

There is always a chance you will actually make the world a tiny bit better - someone may hear you besides the usual suspects.
 

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If you are upset why not vote the video down - he will get the message a little eventually. Better yet, let him know - politely. If you just rage-view it you are giving him views, and so may be inadvertently giving net encouragement.

I know getting rage-view hits is sometimes an actual tactic, but this one has so few likes you could do some serious counter “messaging”. Just saying! >:)

There is always a chance you will actually make the world a tiny bit better - someone may hear you besides the usual suspects.

How does one do that(those) thing(s). I certainly will send a message.

Edit: I figured out that by going directly to youtube I could give a thumbs down to the video and leave a comment. What is saddening is all the comments about what a great video/fisherman, etc. he/it is. Unsettling. I have said many times I will be glad that I'll be dead when folks of his ilk and age come to power.

The worst part is, he won't care one bit what we think. I can hear the ridicule of us coming out of his face as I type this. How did people become so self-centered and clueless? I guess it doesn't matter; they just are.
Gary

P.S. He doesn't look that big. Some of my younger salmon fishing friends in New Brunswick would definately show him the error of his ways should he attempt to "surround them."
 

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For people like these...I wish them nothing but ill will and bad luck!!!! They're pigs and I will dislike and blast this video when I'm done here
 
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I did what I said I was going to do...posted a comment on what I thought of these guys and added a dislike as well. Dirtbags......
 

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How does one do that(those) thing(s). I certainly will send a message.

Edit: I figured out that by going directly to youtube I could give a thumbs down to the video and leave a comment. What is saddening is all the comments about what a great video/fisherman, etc. he/it is. Unsettling. I have said many times I will be glad that I'll be dead when folks of his ilk and age come to power.

Th worst part is, he won't care one bit what we think. I can hear the ridicule of us coming out of his face as I type this. How did people become so self-centered and clueless? I guess it doesn't matter; they just are.
Gary

P.S. He doesn't look that big. Some of my younger salmon fishing friends in New Brunswick would definately show him the error of his ways should he attempt to "surround them."


I think you may be right about the difficulty of convincing someone. But especially if you are polite and explain your reasons you have planted a seed. Next time at the very least he may think about your points. If the message gets reflected back in his face enough, maybe actual eventual progress. Someone who reads the comments, maybe the same effect.

I think it is fine to feel strong emotions about the issue, but reacting overtly, and overly emotional in your comments there (its kind of like like you are in his neighborhood there on his channel, and you can see there it is a lot of his friends) may just be self-indulgent. I suspect people who post mere insults are more keyed in on making themselves feel good by venting than getting people to question their behavior.

I suppose you could gently “pull rank” on this guy - his is fishing for steelhead in the easiest possible way, and projects this “I have it all figured out” attitude. It wouldn’t hurt for (at least) some of his sycophants to realize the limitations in both his experience, and attitudes. But I guess that might be a bit self-indulgent as well.:roll:
 

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I could be wrong but Seemed like he was just trolling or being sarcastic. Making a meta commentary on how others behave in the great lakes.

Though if serious the behavior is unacceptable. I stopped fishing for few years when i was 12 because of similar experiences. Adults on a great lakes tribs fishing over me. The last straw was when i found some obscure eddie by reading water (as a young beginner with no lake run fish under his belt its a big deal) and some adult ran up fished over me. On his first drift literally right over me (by lifting his rod) he caught a big brown.'.. I was proud to see the spot i found held fish but very upset a grown man. With likely many fish under his belt did this to me.
Great lakes fishing in early season can be pretty terrible

Just to update. When mentioned in the comments (likely by one of us, as said above) he contends he was kidding leaving some info and offering to fish.
 

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I detected the slightest whiff of that as well, though I thought he was oddly detailed about his suggested strategy for “finding fish” to be joking.

Either way having him retreat off the suggestion is a small positive, especially if nobody ends up getting too huffy in the process!
 

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My Dad would have handed me my *ss if I tried to cut in on somebody's spot!

If it weren't for the accent, I'd swear this guy was from Central PA... many many "fishermen" here act similarly, some by design, some by instinct.

I'll bet he doesn't have a spare pair of waders in his car! Dunk him, fill his waders up, send him home cold and wet for the day. If enough of us polite fisherman do this, eventually he'll learn😉.

Seriously though, I'm with Botsari. Peacefully plant a seed, twice... then third strike he's getting wet! Or one could accidentally blow an anchor in his general direction. Some people only learn things the hard way... just sayin
 

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I did what I said I was going to do...posted a comment on what I thought of these guys and added a dislike as well. Dirtbags......
With the crowd I have been running with for the past 30+ years dirtbag is actually a compliment (Fred Beckey?). We prefer to use the terms douchebag and a$$h0LE. The difference between the two is a douchebag knows he's doing it.
 

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"I was just kidding." "I was just being sarcastic." Heard those lines anywhere else recently? Tired of people coming up with that lame lament whenever they get called out on something. So I'll let my comments stand, and very unlikely that I will take him up on his offer to fish.

It is certainly one's right to give him or anybody else the benefit of the doubt on this subject, but I, for one, no longer buy it, self-indulgent or not. Your mileage may vary.
Kumbaya,
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I will say I've never done any of the fishing in the Great Lakes tribs...and I based on what I've learned from friends I never will. It's unfortunate in that I suspect it could be a most interesting fishing experience to add to my resume...except for the low lifers.
 
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Maybe I’m wrong but I, too, took what the main character said as a joke – what not to do. None of his other footage showed him moving in the other angler.

By no means am I condoning crowding out another angler. I fish both western rivers and Lake Ontario tributaries for steelhead, and I’ve seen this in both places. Even in big sky country, where there’s generally plenty of room to spread your wings, people get in the way of one another. Agreed, it’s more prevalent on crowded rivers back east, where there’s just more people than space comfortably allows.

For those of you who have not fished Great Lakes tributaries – because of war stories you may have heard (true ones or those embellished upon, as anglers are prone to do) – please don’t let that sway you from checking out these waters. You may be pleasantly surprised about just how good the fishing and swing water really is.

But, wherever you fish - have fun, swing happy, get some tugs, and watch for the occasional knucklehead.
 

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Yesterday I was practicing my two handed casts on a Ohio trib when a family of five set up a camp chair fifty yards up river and proceeded to yell and splash all the way down to my spot. I quietly reeled up and walked away to jeers of "look at all of these fish here!." I don't know if it was ignorance or intentional rudeness. I felt sorry for the kids whose father is a jerk. They don't have a chance of learning manners. I found another quiet place to cast. River karma will find them to their disadvantage. I found my solitude elsewhere. There's a peaceful place within walking distance. It's best to move on and find it.
 

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Yesterday I was practicing my two handed casts on a Ohio trib when a family of five set up a camp chair fifty yards up river and proceeded to yell and splash all the way down to my spot. I quietly reeled up and walked away to jeers of "look at all of these fish here!." I don't know if it was ignorance or intentional rudeness. I felt sorry for the kids whose father is a jerk. They don't have a chance of learning manners. I found another quiet place to cast. River karma will find them to their disadvantage. I found my solitude elsewhere. There's a peaceful place within walking distance. It's best to move on and find it.
It might be the only outdoor recreation they have and the only way to get out and cool down and enjoy the river. Id chalk it up to ignorance and move on as you did.
 
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