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Comrades,

First there was Simon Gawesworth's masterwork on spey casting (Rio's Modern Speycasting DVD, Amazon price $49) where an instructional vocabulary for spey casting is introduced, and where we get some cool early cameos from then emerging skagit greats (2005?). Simon's work was straightforwardly tutorial--demonstrating fundamentals and all key casts with troubleshooting and very cool motion kinetics of each cast for those days. While an enduring classic, in a changing world it's become a bit dated (still taping ferrules) and tilted towards traditional spey more than fixed anchor style of casts. Classy chap this Mr Gawesworth and we should all raise a glass in his honor for getting us started.

Then came Skagit Masters series. Thumping backbeat and personal portrayal of some of the emerging skagit gurus, an interesting blend of culture with some technique blended in, alternating across discs from documentary to instructional. Great fun to watch, new classic footage of spots never named but guessed at by many a bro, and cementing legends in their places for all who care for those things. Those seeking casting tutorials get a few scooby snacks. Ed Ward passed provides a good session on skagit with helpful tips and insight. It's all good for those of us eager to watch every minute, but one can tell instruction wasn't the central focus that the new skagit culture seemed to be. The fishing footage and tying tutorials are excellent.

Larimer's new DVD: Make no bones about it, this is a wholly instructional product, and imho an *exceptionally* good one. The production values are clearly circa 2016 with HD quality video and pro sound production. Tom has a fully developed teaching method. He's very clear in the beginning segments about where to start, and which defaults are best to begin with, while suggesting in advance some rules that will be teased with later. Like Gawesworth before him, he has strong analogies. He's been there when things have broken down, and he anticipates learners questions very well. And while all instructors have a right to a bit of their own dogma, I found Tom not drawing too deeply from this privilege. He stayed near casting orthodoxy in a good way, with some departures that I've found in my own practice were valid and beneficial (his teacup sweep as a default, vs some who insist that sweeping low to high is in every case the right thing--it's clearly not imho) The material is arranged structurally so that a rank beginner can progress from basic skills (anchor placement basics, default shaping of the D loop), return later for intermediate (shaping the D-loop for deep wading, from a boat) and advanced material (hangdown adjustment, and esp every poke plus wombat in the best video coverage I've found anywhere).

Well done, Mr. Larimer! Wish'd I'd had it when I was setting forth on this quest. But it's still a solid value for review of basics and definitely for the mid-level and more advanced content.

Note on formats: I originally purchased the DVD on Amazon. When I learned (below, thx wstcstbob) that it was available for download I bought it again and gave my DVD to a friend. Word to the wise if you go the download route (google Beattie Outdoor Productions Larimer Skagit Revolution flyfishingvideostore). Quality is awesome, but be prepared. It's 8 gig of downloads, a chapter at a time. Even on the fastest connections this is tedious, and most browsers will allow you to start all the downloads at once, fail to download the whole file, but not issue any warning, and you'll get only the first minute or two of a chapter. I tried multiple times before finally downloading one video at a time--took over an hour.

PS. ALSO COMING SOON--TRAVIS JOHNSON DVD: I learned from a recent guide trip with distance champ Travis Johnson that he will release a DVD set reasonably soon covering skagit, scandi, traditional. Having seen Travis cast, and having had his mentoring, I'm sure there'll be many gems to come on this set. Expected...I'm guessing here...xmas 2016.
 

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Looking forward to the Travis Johnson DVD. Well, the video not DVD. It's year 2016, why DVD? My latest and greatest computer doesn't even have a DVD player.
 

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Thanks for the review,, I was going to pass on this video,,, IMHO Skagit Master 4 was not very impressive.

Your comments give the impression this is a good effort and mainly instruction.

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FK if SM4 is the one with Tom going back to the GL area and fishing with Dave Pinczkowski--I found that a breezy entertaining show. My mates and I pointed out some familiar water and knew exactly the budget motel from the cinder block walls, but it was pretty light on technique. Oh, except for Dave P's "wanking" on the hangdown, which in funnier moment he said admitted to doing for years but it had never worked....but you gotta believe! (But it does! My mates and I have joked about it only to have violent takes on the wank).

This is a totally different beast, nearly Joan Wulff in consistency of the scheme and seriousness:)
 

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To go along with SpeyRey's posts here and for those wondering about this DVD it is strictly an instructional course in two handed casting. The focus is geared towards those that cast short skagit heads (Skagit Switch, Compact, Max, Max Short, etc) and all the technique around that. The detail achieved in this is great and will literally draw a picture to define things like the anchor point, 180 degree rule, ripping loop, as well as talking about your basic casts and advanced casts. You even get several angles from the side and overhead to see Tom define these casts.

Each chapter covers a single cast and the technique needed to perform it well. These casts include the Snap T (from river left and right), Double Spey (from river left and right), upstream and downstream Perry Pokes (from river left and right). Also touches on if you are a left handed caster for each as well. there is a great chapter on modifying your basic cast depending on your fishing situation which include modifying overhang, anchor placement, D-loop size, upper hand vs left hand, and the plane of your sweep.

Again this is purely instructional for casting only. This is nothing like SM4 and strongly believe anyone from novice to advanced would be able to glean something from this course. I have tried to emulate Tom's casting for a couple years now as i like casting short skagit heads. After watching this I found that I had obtained a fair amount from his videos on YouTube, but the detail Tom goes into here really cleared up any questions i had and after hammering in this technique I have to say my last steelhead trip was the best i've had from a casting perspective....

Lastly you can get this as a DVD or a digital format. I got mine directly from RA Beaties' site in digital format which works on mac and pc. Again a great instructional DVD/video. Hopefully this explains exactly what this video is about.
 

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I agree, this DVD is very helpful. If Tom were to reedit (re-shoot, actually) parts of this video, the shots from directly overhead were so far away, they were essentially useless. Tom seemed to have been looking at my attempts recently to lengthen my casts and become more consistent, because most every tip was useful.
 

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I agree, this DVD is very helpful. If Tom were to reedit (re-shoot, actually) parts of this video, the shots from directly overhead were so far away, they were essentially useless. Tom seemed to have been looking at my attempts recently to lengthen my casts and become more consistent, because most every tip was useful.
Agree. Perhaps a contrasting colored line would have helped. Otherwise a very good instructional IMO.
 
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And a white rod. Then we could see the components at a distance.
 

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I think its the best new casting dvd since the original Skagit Master with Ed Ward. I downloaded it, well worth the $30.
He does things differently than Ed and maybe simpler too. I do miss the grit and humor of Ed though!
 

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Imo, casting videos are castig videos. I was hoping Larmiers video would play more into the fishing side, presentation, reading water and catching fish! Not so! All casting. Not bad if thats what you're looking for, but i wanted a bit more fish porn in my life.

On a side note one thing I've learned with casting videos that fundementals remain the same, but there are lots of different styles. Guess you just have to learn what works for you.
 
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