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Rage shooting heads have considerable turnover force, so it makes sense that they can turn over sinktips provided that they are not too heavy.

So I did some measuring, weighing and yard trials, coming up with this chart matching Delta sinktips to Rage heads:

• 420 Rage matched to 77 grain, 13’ sinktips for 6/7
• 450 Rage matched to 85 grain, 13’ sinktips for 7/8
• 480 Rage matched to 97 grain, 14’ sinktips for 8/9
• 510 Rage matched to 105 grain, 15’ sinktips for 9/10
• 540 Rage matched to 115 grain, 15’ sinktips for 10/11
• 570 Rage matched to 115 grain, 15’ sinktips for 10/11

This is a conservative matchup as I found the lighter heads could still turn over 9/10 tips.

To match this up to your rod, assuming Scandinavian or Traditional casting, add the weight of the sinktip to the Rage head to determine the proper weight. Look at it as a 45' shooting head. For example, the 510 Rage plus 105' tips makes for a 615 grain, 45' line.

This blog entry has more info for those wanting to see the analysis: www.hooked4life.ca/h4l/blog_and_tech/blog_and_tech_files/rage_tips.php
 

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Peter,

Great info as usual, Thanks a lot !! Already made a hard copy. Your continuing efforts are greatly appreciated.

Enjoy The Spey Journey,
sixheads
 

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And for Mike who wondered about slicing and dicing a Delta II, here are the approximate Delta II floater tip weights, matching the lengths of the appropriately rated old style Delta tips:

94 grains for the 7/8 measured at 13' (51')
100 grains for the 8/9 measured at 14' (56')
117 grains for the 9/10 measured at 15' (61')
113 grains for the 10/11 measured at 15' (66')

This range of weights may look odd until we factor in the difference in lengths. The 7/8 is 51' going up in 5' increments to the 10/11 at 66'. As a consequence, the front tapers are steeper on the shorter, lighter lines producing tip sections that are relatively heavy in comparison. The old Deltas went from 52' at 7/8 to 57' at 10/11.

Here's the weights with all lines weighed at 15':

110 grains for the 7/8 measured at 15' (51')
107 grains for the 8/9 measured at 15' (56')
117 grains for the 9/10 measured at 15' (61')
113 grains for the 10/11 measured at 15' (66')

This suggests that all of the lines could handle the 105 grain 9/10 tips, though the belts and braces crowd may prefer to align the line ratings with the old Delta tip ratings.
 

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Just back from a quick jaunt to the river. The flows are so low, I could only fish one spot with a 10' steelhead fast sink poly. Anything denser would've dragged the bottom. I used the 8/9 Delta II on a PRO 4X 13' 8/9 rod with a Green Butt Skunk on a #4 salmon hook plus 9' of FC.

No problems at all, hardly knew it was there.
 

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That is great news Peter !!
Again , thanks for doing that :)
Looks like I'm picking up a 9/10 Delta II head as a "Happy Birthday to me" gift :hihi:


Mike
Great, and you have a choice between full line and head only version. The nice thing about the head version; it has the same short rear taper as the full line so it's easy to cast with the loops out of the guides.

Here's a blog entry that covers all of the details:

http://www.hooked4life.ca/h4l/blog_and_tech/blog_and_tech_files/delta_ii_tips.php

and Happy Birthday ;)
 
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