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My son was gifted a Scott 9' 5wt and we're looking for the right line to match it with. Right now he's using a traditional 5wt double taper and it is working okay for him, but is a little finicky about the anchor and sometimes loses enough steam to get nice turnover. He primarily uses spey casts, and only occasionally overhead casts. He swings wets and small unweighted streamers for trout, but also wants to retain the ability to fish upstream dry flies without switching lines. I'm torn between the Rio Single Hand Spey and the Airflo 40 plus. Anyone cast both lines? Which do you prefer and why?
 

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Looking at the taper diagram, the first 30' of that Rio Gold look pretty much identical to the line he has now. I appreciate your input though.
 

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The snowbee 200 or 250 grain switch line would be a nice line my buddy uses the 250 on his 5wt Scott also the vision hybrid in the 200 grain would be nice both great lines .
 

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And I missed one, the Barrio SLX may also be a contender here. Any comments are welcome
I have many other Barrio and generally they have good value for money but SLX I have not but I am sure you can find info searching.

I have Rio LT WF5F and its head is about 50ft and too long for Spey but for overhead casting dry fly it is good. New Rio SH Spey has shorter head.

My best Spey lines are self made and for single hand and Switch rods I make them from TH Spey WF rear tapers which are unnecessary so I have lots of short and shortish tapers. It takes about 20 minutes to make WF line splitting the head coating and tie cores using reef knot. I first secure the knot with few thread wraps and then wrap flaps over the knot using fly tying bobbin keeping everything smeared with PU (wader glue). For this I tape the head end to table so that join comes about two inches over. Trickiest phase is to finish wraps using half hitches when bobbin needs to be dropped thru thread loop where a third hand would come handy ;)
 

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My son was gifted a Scott 9' 5wt and we're looking for the right line to match it with. Right now he's using a traditional 5wt double taper and it is working okay for him, but is a little finicky about the anchor and sometimes loses enough steam to get nice turnover. He primarily uses spey casts, and only occasionally overhead casts. He swings wets and small unweighted streamers for trout, but also wants to retain the ability to fish upstream dry flies without switching lines. I'm torn between the Rio Single Hand Spey and the Airflo 40 plus. Anyone cast both lines? Which do you prefer and why?
Of the two - I prefer the Rio line simply due to the back taper and that the running section is slightly thicker. 40+ is fine also. The short back taper creates a blunt transition from head to a thin running section and it casts and fishes like a shooting head system.
 

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Pretty slick joinery there bender! I'll bet that goes through the guides with barely a sound! Is there a reason you prefer to use this method instead of welding (other than dissimilar line materials)?
 

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Hi capt,

I know this is not an answer to the original question but I do use wulff triangle taper quite successfully for single hand spey casting. They are quite versatile and will also perform very well overhead casting...

Good luck in your search,

Dc
 

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Barrio Lines

The SLX and Gt90 series lines are both great lines for SH spey casting. The SLX has a shorter head and acts more like a traditional WF line; it is best for sustained anchor casts. The GT series has a short front taper and a very long back taper. It is easy to toss off the tip or let it all out for 70+' casts. Its already mentioned these are relatively inexpensive. I own seven of them and use practically nothing else. If you order one, expect to get it in 7 to 10 working days shipped free of charge from Scotland.
 

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Pretty slick joinery there bender! I'll bet that goes through the guides with barely a sound! Is there a reason you prefer to use this method instead of welding (other than dissimilar line materials)?
I still sometimes weld but only Polyurethane coated lines. I don't try to weld PVC anymore because it is difficult to get good. When I thread wrap line sections together I can join PU and PVC.

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Nothing yet as my son has put fishing on the back burner... He's gotten himself a girlfriend. We all know what that does to a young man's priorities.

If it were entirely up to me, I'd probably pick the Rio SHS.
 

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I would like to throw another option into the mix. I find the Wulff Ambush lines will both single hand spey and overhead pretty well. It's all I ever use on my 10' 7wt single. I have used them to swing, strip and upstream dry fly. Great all arounder.

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I’m a big fan of the Wulff ambush as well. I single hand cast an 8wt ambush with my 9ft 8wt and I use it as a two handed line or single handed for my 6wt Beulah 10’4” switch. I just add a 10ft 55 or 65 grain tip or polyleader and I can do touch and go casts as well as sustained anchor casts with the switch. Single handed I will put on a shorter polyleader...5-7ft if I need to get down a little bit. Pretty versatile line.
 

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I like the Rio SHS 3D in F/H/I. When I want to wake or even fish a dry, I just put on a longer mono leader and it works fine. When fishing wets or small streamers, it gets the fly in the zone really well. It helps on windy days too, minimizing surface effects. When gusts force others off the water, the SHS 3D rewards me with privacy on the water. Casts overhead and single hand Spey, both like a charm. Great line.

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