Sage 7141
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Hello,
I am hearing lots of good things about that rod. A friend who has fished his a lot in Norway uses 40-42' 9 weight heads on his, along with the "8-9-10" Wind Cutter. Seems like it is a beefy 7 weight....
I have been looking for a "long" true 8-9 weighter rod that not is a noodle. Hopefully this one might be it.
When I get up to the Kharlovka on Saturday I will fish the 14'1"/7 (one is kept in camp). I'll let you know what I thought when back here on the 14th.
Per
I am hearing lots of good things about that rod. A friend who has fished his a lot in Norway uses 40-42' 9 weight heads on his, along with the "8-9-10" Wind Cutter. Seems like it is a beefy 7 weight....
I have been looking for a "long" true 8-9 weighter rod that not is a noodle. Hopefully this one might be it.
When I get up to the Kharlovka on Saturday I will fish the 14'1"/7 (one is kept in camp). I'll let you know what I thought when back here on the 14th.
Per
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This is my favorite rod. I'll grab this rod instead of my 8150-4 most times which is a comparably powered rod though a tad slower. I use mastery spey 8/9 with tips or an 8/9 TT floater on it. Would like a DT9F for it too.
Per -the rod is indeed more of a 9 weight and definitely has enough backbone to out the wood to a strong fish. It is also light in weight which I really appreciate.
Fall is in the air! We had a beautiful show from the Northern Lights last night. And arguably the best steelhead on earth are just beginning now to make their ascent upstream!
pescaphile
Per -the rod is indeed more of a 9 weight and definitely has enough backbone to out the wood to a strong fish. It is also light in weight which I really appreciate.
Fall is in the air! We had a beautiful show from the Northern Lights last night. And arguably the best steelhead on earth are just beginning now to make their ascent upstream!
pescaphile
I have a very good friend who bought this rod last year. He loves it and uses a 7/8 midspey on it. He used to fish a 7136, which he has not fished since getting the 7141. He tried the 8/9 midspey on the 7141 and says it slowed down the rod too much for his taste and said the rod felt a little overlaoded to him with the 8/9 as well.
I personally liked the 7141 best with a 6/7 Accelerator line, and this friend does too but he hasn't learned how to consitently cast well with the 75 foot long Accelerator belly. And he also fishes sink tips of 13, 15, and 17 feet on with the 7/8 Midspey on this rod too.
I still wish Loomis put out a 15 foot GLX 8/9 though.
I personally liked the 7141 best with a 6/7 Accelerator line, and this friend does too but he hasn't learned how to consitently cast well with the 75 foot long Accelerator belly. And he also fishes sink tips of 13, 15, and 17 feet on with the 7/8 Midspey on this rod too.
I still wish Loomis put out a 15 foot GLX 8/9 though.
Hey Guys,
Thanks for the info.
My local Flyshop is going to let me demo that rod for a couple of weeks,I'll let you know how I like it.
Any of you guys fish the Sandy or Clackamas rivers in Feb. or March? I am thinking about booking a guide for that area then, it will be my first serious steelhead trip in Oregon!
Thanks,Eric
Thanks for the info.
My local Flyshop is going to let me demo that rod for a couple of weeks,I'll let you know how I like it.
Any of you guys fish the Sandy or Clackamas rivers in Feb. or March? I am thinking about booking a guide for that area then, it will be my first serious steelhead trip in Oregon!
Thanks,Eric
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River guide for the Sandy River.
Call Mark Backman at the Flyshop usa (he's also a Board sponcer so you'll see his 'rolling add' going). Great place to get your goodies, he pays the shipping and he knows the Sandy River better than 99% of the people in the area.
Mark is also the primary driver in setting up the annual Spey Clave at Oxbow Park.
fae
Call Mark Backman at the Flyshop usa (he's also a Board sponcer so you'll see his 'rolling add' going). Great place to get your goodies, he pays the shipping and he knows the Sandy River better than 99% of the people in the area.
Mark is also the primary driver in setting up the annual Spey Clave at Oxbow Park.
fae
I fish a 7141 in the summer and it is a great rod. Some people say it is too stout for summer fishing, but I don't think it handles the heavy heads of winter very well. I've found it fishes best for me with a 7/8 mid spey floater and if I want a sink tip I just loop on an Airflo 10' sink tip.
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Erich, re the 7141
The 7141 has to be the greatest quote small spey rod.
I love it so much, I will be selling my great 7136 after one season.
The lines for my 7136 work so well with the 7141. I probably will not be getting any new lines. The Midspey 6/7 booms dry flies out or using John Judy's tippet hanging from the indicator enables you to make 60 to 70 roll lob casts with a Boles Indicator and 5-7 feet of tippet tied to the Boles indicator ring hanging down and through a sliding tungsten beads above your fly. You can cast all day. On the Yuba, you can easily skate 70' of line with a leader down stream with the 7141.
My Windcutter 6/7/8 with the upgrade is a rocket line blaster with the 7141. My 7136 could not lift the sinking tips out of the waters in the heavy down stream flows we have had the past two summers in Kali. 3-4 times the water is being released to provide electricity since we have no new power plants in Kali land. So the flows have been outrageous. The 7136 just couldn't lift the sinking heads even with a roll cast. The 7141 rips the sinking tips up.
Anyone want to buy a like new 7136 brown used for one year for $400? The 7136 is a great flyrod until you start trying to lift sinking tips in heavy flow tailwaters. You can cast all day with it an a MidSpey 6/7 with dries, intermediate tip and the Boles indicator system mentioned above.
The 7141 has to be the greatest quote small spey rod.
I love it so much, I will be selling my great 7136 after one season.
The lines for my 7136 work so well with the 7141. I probably will not be getting any new lines. The Midspey 6/7 booms dry flies out or using John Judy's tippet hanging from the indicator enables you to make 60 to 70 roll lob casts with a Boles Indicator and 5-7 feet of tippet tied to the Boles indicator ring hanging down and through a sliding tungsten beads above your fly. You can cast all day. On the Yuba, you can easily skate 70' of line with a leader down stream with the 7141.
My Windcutter 6/7/8 with the upgrade is a rocket line blaster with the 7141. My 7136 could not lift the sinking tips out of the waters in the heavy down stream flows we have had the past two summers in Kali. 3-4 times the water is being released to provide electricity since we have no new power plants in Kali land. So the flows have been outrageous. The 7136 just couldn't lift the sinking heads even with a roll cast. The 7141 rips the sinking tips up.
Anyone want to buy a like new 7136 brown used for one year for $400? The 7136 is a great flyrod until you start trying to lift sinking tips in heavy flow tailwaters. You can cast all day with it an a MidSpey 6/7 with dries, intermediate tip and the Boles indicator system mentioned above.
It's a nice rod. I bought one in Feb. of this year. Haven't got to use it yet, but I've put 120 hrs. of practice on it. Going up to Washington next month and give it a work out. Have caught a few trout on it and it seemed to handle them nicely.
Before I bought it, I tried a Winston DB, a 7136, and a Scott. Liked them all, but liked this one the best. Use two lines with it, a 7/8 midspey with tips and SA XLT. Handles the 15 ft. tips fine. 80" all day long with a circle T or spiral roll. Can get out a little further but usually don't. Like the XLT floater better than the midspey floater except in the wind. Tried a 7/8 and a 6/7 XLT. Like the 6/7 much better. Can pick up 110 to 115' but usually fish at 85' to 90' max.
Depends what kind of rod action you like but, for me, it's a very nice casting rod. Hope to hook a twenty pounder next month and see how it handles. (Ya right, maybe the Hoh will be forgiving this year) I like the rod. Hope this helps.
JIms
Before I bought it, I tried a Winston DB, a 7136, and a Scott. Liked them all, but liked this one the best. Use two lines with it, a 7/8 midspey with tips and SA XLT. Handles the 15 ft. tips fine. 80" all day long with a circle T or spiral roll. Can get out a little further but usually don't. Like the XLT floater better than the midspey floater except in the wind. Tried a 7/8 and a 6/7 XLT. Like the 6/7 much better. Can pick up 110 to 115' but usually fish at 85' to 90' max.
Depends what kind of rod action you like but, for me, it's a very nice casting rod. Hope to hook a twenty pounder next month and see how it handles. (Ya right, maybe the Hoh will be forgiving this year) I like the rod. Hope this helps.
JIms
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Per's View?
Per was going to test the 7141 fishing and give an evaluation. Hopw we can hear from him?
Per was going to test the 7141 fishing and give an evaluation. Hopw we can hear from him?
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Jim, your in Fresno and you're going to Washington to find
their "mythical fish??' Cut your drive by half and fish the upper Rogue. We're awash in summer runs and fall Kings. (no kidding).
Besides, Oregon needs your tourest dollars more than the Washingtonians.
Besides, I'll even send you "the map"with the names of the rocks to stand on.
(Darn, wish I could remember the 'generated' Indian name)
fae
their "mythical fish??' Cut your drive by half and fish the upper Rogue. We're awash in summer runs and fall Kings. (no kidding).
Besides, Oregon needs your tourest dollars more than the Washingtonians.
Besides, I'll even send you "the map"with the names of the rocks to stand on.
(Darn, wish I could remember the 'generated' Indian name)
fae
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Fred,
The smoke on the horizon says, "Stephen Overnight Mink". Or maybe thats Mr. Dolling burning the trash... whatever.
ws
I found another site if you need another alias - wanna be a pirate?
The smoke on the horizon says, "Stephen Overnight Mink". Or maybe thats Mr. Dolling burning the trash... whatever.
ws
I found another site if you need another alias - wanna be a pirate?
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I never got a chanse to try it on the Kola as the one I was hoping to use had been moved to another camp. Instead I have borrowed my friend's and cast it for an evening on the lake outside my home. This is a crappy way to evalute a rod - but still better than just reading about it....
To put it short - there is nothing I want more at this moment. It feels great. Puts long casts out with little effort - appears to have enough backbone to handle serious fish without being dead and stiff. Just what I have been looking for. A rod that covers water and still lets one step down in line weight for softer presentation (long 8 or shorter' 9 weight heads) while making the use of thin leaders reasonably safe.
I will get back once it has been tried on a river - hopefully this first impression will last.
Per
To put it short - there is nothing I want more at this moment. It feels great. Puts long casts out with little effort - appears to have enough backbone to handle serious fish without being dead and stiff. Just what I have been looking for. A rod that covers water and still lets one step down in line weight for softer presentation (long 8 or shorter' 9 weight heads) while making the use of thin leaders reasonably safe.
I will get back once it has been tried on a river - hopefully this first impression will last.
Per
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Fall king run is beginning to peter out but still several thousand summer runs in the
river at this time. Water levels have been dropped back from 2500 cfs to 1,000'ish. So it's dry line and light tips time. I've got a substantial number of them nailed down location wise so I can tell you what rock to stand on.
Hooked 5 this morning, but only landed 2. First one pulled a stunt that I haven't seen in a long time. He must have seen the fly swing by at the bottom end of the drift and hit it going across stream. Blew out new 8# leader like it was a thread.
But the hatchery one will be dinner tonight with a green salad, garden tomatoes, new patatoes tosssed with Basil and Parsley; cookies for desert.
:devil:
And as it's 4:49pm it's close enough to 5 for a 'double' single.:smokin:
Got carried away there:
Jim, if you do come up I'd love the chance to try the 14 ' sage 7wt. Read alot about the rod (mostly on the board) but never seen one in operation. Shoot me your schedule.
fae
river at this time. Water levels have been dropped back from 2500 cfs to 1,000'ish. So it's dry line and light tips time. I've got a substantial number of them nailed down location wise so I can tell you what rock to stand on.
Hooked 5 this morning, but only landed 2. First one pulled a stunt that I haven't seen in a long time. He must have seen the fly swing by at the bottom end of the drift and hit it going across stream. Blew out new 8# leader like it was a thread.
But the hatchery one will be dinner tonight with a green salad, garden tomatoes, new patatoes tosssed with Basil and Parsley; cookies for desert.
:devil:
And as it's 4:49pm it's close enough to 5 for a 'double' single.:smokin:
Got carried away there:
Jim, if you do come up I'd love the chance to try the 14 ' sage 7wt. Read alot about the rod (mostly on the board) but never seen one in operation. Shoot me your schedule.
fae
Fred,
I'd like to take you up on your offer. My plans are, unfortunately, tenuous at this point. My fishing partner may have hit a major snag with regard to our departure date. I'll try to get a hold of you next week. By the way, which part of the Rogue are you thinking about? Can we pontoon it?
Jims
I'd like to take you up on your offer. My plans are, unfortunately, tenuous at this point. My fishing partner may have hit a major snag with regard to our departure date. I'll try to get a hold of you next week. By the way, which part of the Rogue are you thinking about? Can we pontoon it?
Jims
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Sorry I missed your post!
Fred,
I'd like to take you up on your offer. My plans are, unfortunately, tenuous at this point. My fishing partner may have hit a major snag with regard to our departure date. I'll try to get a hold of you next week. By the way, which part of the Rogue are you thinking about? Can we pontoon it?
Jims
You could float almost any part of the Rogue right now due to the 'low' water flow conditions. Most of the river is at 1100 to maybe 1500 max even well below Grants Pass.
Several fellows use 'pontoon boats' to cover from the dam all the way down to Tou Ville Park (below Tou ville there arn't any take out until you get below Gold Ray Dam. Easy float in all but a couple of places (Rattlesnake comes to mind).
Almost any time is good for me; only a couple of potental dead weekends (commitments- the last week of October and the weekend of the 7th of November.
fae
Fred,
I'd like to take you up on your offer. My plans are, unfortunately, tenuous at this point. My fishing partner may have hit a major snag with regard to our departure date. I'll try to get a hold of you next week. By the way, which part of the Rogue are you thinking about? Can we pontoon it?
Jims
You could float almost any part of the Rogue right now due to the 'low' water flow conditions. Most of the river is at 1100 to maybe 1500 max even well below Grants Pass.
Several fellows use 'pontoon boats' to cover from the dam all the way down to Tou Ville Park (below Tou ville there arn't any take out until you get below Gold Ray Dam. Easy float in all but a couple of places (Rattlesnake comes to mind).
Almost any time is good for me; only a couple of potental dead weekends (commitments- the last week of October and the weekend of the 7th of November.
fae
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Bob Pauli
Bob, loan me your T&T 13 foot 7wt for this fall/winter season, and I will give you a comparison of the T&T 13 foot 7wt versus the Sage 7141. :hehe:
Dave
Bob, loan me your T&T 13 foot 7wt for this fall/winter season, and I will give you a comparison of the T&T 13 foot 7wt versus the Sage 7141. :hehe:
Dave
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