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With a fond wish this is a first, and last, time I'll use "profanity" on the Board.


F*cking Ausume! (Even 'rank am's' such as I know what works.)

Got the two new lines today (knew they were coming); loaded them on reels and used same on a couple of different rods each. Bloody impressed, even if they may be SA's new, almost there, production lines.

Good to be on your own 'employment' clock.

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Dana/Sean/Juro: Thanks for cleaning up my 'language;' In my excitement last night it was more than a bit "over the top."
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Fred,

I assume these are floating line versions will they be making a sink tip (s) versions ?

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Roger that on all the XLT' being 'floaters' at this time.

Vague memory of talk that a tri-tip version of the line was under development, but can't pull any specific's up in my mind. Also seem to remember Dr. Yin commenting in one of his posts about where you could cut one of these lines to make a sink tip version.

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They can be cut @ 26-27ft and looped and are almost more impressive as tip lines than full floaters.
 

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Really, then I might be interested in these after some one has successfully done the line surgery and testing as a sink tip version. Guess I have to wait for my leading edge PNW spey colleagues to show the way on this one. I am an advocate of the "Late Adopter" consumer buying practice. Never buy brand new models, always wait and see if it is proven product before buying.

I was an "Early Adopter" of a new Fiat Sport Coupe model in 1974 let me tell you I paid a big price for that mistake. I learned a lesson on that purchase. :mad:
 

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Hal, your last cracked me up!

"I was an "Early Adopter" of a new Fiat Sport Coupe model in 1974 let me tell you I paid a big price for that mistake. I learned a lesson on that purchase."

Remember that car well; one of the few that should have been driven directly off the delivery ship and into the bay. Would have been a far better thing to use these from the get-go to provide sea bottom 'structure' for fish. This auto (I think that's what they were trying to achieve?) was may first 'proof' that "50 million Frenchmen" could (in fact) be wrong.
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Very funny, however it was very expensive. It was the fast back red 124 coupe with a white interior, quite a ladies car. A great looking car however it only ran well for a few months then it was ll downhill. If it rained over night and the car was outside, if I did not get the choke right on the first turn of the engine forget it, it would not start.

I can't even remember how many times I broke down with that car and the towing bills. Lots of paint job problems also.

The first month I had it I was driving to pick up a date on a hot humid NJ night, the rear window was fogged, so I decided put on the window defroster for the first time, kept driving, all of a sudden smelled something burning, quickly shut off the window defogger, to late, BANG, thought some one was shooting at me, looked at the rear window and it was completely shattered. Took about 2 months to get the window repaired by Fiat. Could not drive it but was making the payments. :eek:

Took it fishing up to NYS one time with my buddy and the NY state trooper did not hesitate in giving us a ticket and laughed at the coolers with aerators we had in the back seat filled with dozens of live Sawbellies. We were going for the big browns in Pepaction Reservoir that day and did catch a few.

Oh what memories that car was. My father hated it, it never started for him.

I wonder how much money I wasted on that endevor ?

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XLT sink tips

Mark Bachmann used to be a fan of short belly lines for use with sink tips. That all changed at the Sandy Clave when he saw Steve Choate cast one of the XLT lines that he had cut and attached 15 ft of LC-13. No problem casting that rig, I would guess, somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 ft. Tight loops and good turnover, but then, that's Steve. It can be done!:hehe: And Leroy Tipple showed us how to make the loops. (hope I got your name right Leroy)

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Fred, Way, was kind enough to let me try the new 8/9 line on a 9140. It was a truly amazing line and I made the longest casts of my life with this line. I to am very interested in using sink tips on this long line and would like to read more comments. Jerry
 

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I enjoy your posts on the Forum. When you cut the XLT at 26 or 27 feet do you then add a l5 foot head? This would shorten the main body of the line by 11 to 12 feet making it easier to lift. What head do you use? Jerry
 

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Hi Jerry, When I have to use tips I like to go heavy and usually use lc-13 in 10 , 12,15,18,and 20 ft lengths. I know that others dont like the stuff but I think its great, its cheap and gets down like nothing else. I have also used regular tips and the line has no problem throwing them to 25ft.
 

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Xlt for GL3 14' 8/9 ?

Does anyone have any ideas wich Xlt for a Loomis GL3 14' 8/9 wt. Mark B. has a one for the 15' 10/11, but not others.
Also Has anyone heard when they might have a tip version?

Thanks in advance
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Airflo Poly leaders on SA XLT's

Has anyone used the AirFlo poly leaders as an alternative to cutting the XLT's and tips?
 

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Jerry have the same rod and I use the 8/9 XLT-a cannon IF ...

Xlt for GL3 14' 8/9 ?
Does anyone have any ideas wich Xlt for a Loomis GL3 14' 8/9 wt. Mark B. has a one for the 15' 10/11, but not others.
Also Has anyone heard when they might have a tip version?

Thanks in advance
Jerry

you snip 4 feet off the tip to shorten the forward taper.

Down here on the Rogue (being repetative as heck here) our 'normal' summer run set up is a dry line, very long leader (13-18 feet) and a two fly set up.

Problem with the XLT's (have the 7/8, 8/9 and the 9/10) is the transfer of energy from the line to very long leader/two weighted fly set ups. The long leader/two flys were creating too much of an 'anchor effect' to pop the whole mess off the water. Line would come up but the leader either had a tendency to collapes or lay out horizontal to the water rather than 'over the top' of the fly line.

Discussed this with Dr. Yin and he suggested snipping off a foot, then another foot, etc., until you'd cut back the tip to where the energy transfer matched the terminal gear. One foot made zero difference, but you could tell that the 'anchor effect' was less ... but not enought. Off when another foot, etc. At four feet less tip I'm back to two flys, 15 foot leaders, et. al. and 90 foot casts.

These lines strongly favor Euro style rods rods rather than the lighter 'traditional' blanks such as Sages. As an example of this the 7/8 XLT (again with 4 foot less tip) on the Sage 14 and 15 foot 9wt's is a great match. The 8/9 tends to over load the rod, and/or your timing has to be on the money (and cast dead on over the 'anchor') or just too many 'grains' out there for long casts.

The 9/10 on the Sage 15' 'traditional' appears to 'over-load' the rod but on a 'Euro' it's a cannon. Tried this on the 18' Bruce and Walker and just about cleared the entire 150 feet into the air shooting line on a couple of casts with a single fly and shorter (about 10-12 foot) leader. I was very impressed with myself ... doubt I could do it again on demand.
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Rich, cool idea. Have a couple of Poly leaders

at home and I'll give it a try this weekend.
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Poly leaders should work fine on the XLT, I've seen Kush throw them a mile on the Spey Driver and they turn over great. I've thrown them on TT and they work great as well.
 

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Dah Fred! Sorry Rich, flat forgot to pull this up and respond to the

Poly Leader/short sinking 'leader' question.

Works like a charm!!! Jim Jones (JD JONES on the board) was blowing these out like there was no tomorrow. Sickning performance... other than I was the one who hooked the fish. Snigger, snigger.:devil:

Well, "my river" so I pretty well know where the buggers are going to hide, if they're there at all.

Great lines ... but just snip off 4 foot of the tip (after!!!! you've worked with if for a bit). Í'm a so-so caster) so experiment a bit on shorting the tip section on the XT's.
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Great combo, Jim Jones is using the 8/9 on his 9wt his Sages and

doing well, but I'm not a "power caster."

What's to say?
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