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Last year we sent out a selection of the four sizes of GrandSpey as trial lines for various readers of the board to test and it seemed a pretty popular idea. We would like to do the same with our new lines for 2004 and send out a bunch of the lines to those interested, to try out.

As many know, RIO is coming out with a range of 44 ft Scandinavian shooting heads for 2004. There are five sizes: 7/8, 8/9, 9/10, 10/11 and 11/12. Jim and I have been playing with these all year and have got them to where we think they are the very best spey shooting heads available.

The only problem is that these lines are designed to be totally adaptable and will be cut to the right weight and length for each individual caster and rod. As a result, it seems pointless sending out one of each size and asking for them to be passed around. What we are proposing is to send out 25 heads to the first 25 board members that reply for them to cut, adapt, test and play with and then keep. The only condition is that a product test sheet is completed and sent to me. For anyone interested, please let me know, either on the board here, or via my email ([email protected]).

The lines we have available are in three formats: 1)floating, 2)floating with a 12' intermediate sinking tip, and 3) floating with an 8 ft intermediate sink tip compensator and a 15' type 3 sinking tip. These are all one piece lines with no loops. We also have availble the Skagit type head which is 29 ft long with a loop and is supplied with four 15 ft sinking tips: int, T3, T6 and T8, though this one is not availble to be sent out as part of this product testing (we have to have something left for the dealers to sell!! ) :hehe:

Anyone interested please let me know the size of line and the density required. For obvious reasons, we can only send out one line per person. While we are happy to send these lines to anyone, because of distributor agreements, these lines are only available to those in the US and Canada - sorry! :(

As a guideline for weights, the line has two designations (8/9, for example) as it is designed to be completely adaptable. With most rods, at 44 ft it is a #9 weight (in this example) and at 38 ft it is a #8 weight. We recommend 44 ft for most spey casting and 38 ft for overhead casting and for spey casting in real tight situations. This may help anyone wanting to try these lines to choose the right line for the rod they have.


Okay, enough of the book. Just let me know those who want to try these new lines.

Tight lines
Simon
 

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New toys!

Hi Simon,

I'd really love to try one of these, but am not sure whether to go with the 7/8 or 8/9. What are the grains/wt on each? I've tried the Hardy Mach 1 (338 grains) and it's a bit light for the rod I'd like to use it with.

I'm finding more and more uses for the short-belly lines, and with Silvers fast approaching this would be the perfect time to try one.

Also, just a cosmetic question? What are the colors, and is there a contrast between running line and head?

Thanks!

Brian
 

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I forgot the vital part, the grain weights. They are:
7/8 = 500 grains at 44ft, 450 grains at 38ft and 370 grains at 31ft
8/9 = 580 @ 44', 500 @ 38' 438 @ 31'
9/10 = 660 @ 44', 580 @ 38', 480 @ 31'
10/11 = 730 @ 44', 635 @ 38', 520 @ 31'
11/12 = 845 @ 44', 730 @ 38', 600 @ 31'

Remember that the bigger number is for the line at 44'. So the 7/8 is a #8 at 44' and a #7 at 38' (and then a #6 at 31')

Hope this gives everyone the answers to easy spey casting :D
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Hey Brian

Sorry didn't answer your cosmetic question!

The floating section is the green of the shooting line on the WindCutter, the intermediate is opaque and the sinking type 3 is brown. They are only the heads. These lines do need to be attached to a shooting line, either 50lb SlickShooter for best distance, or 0.035" floating powerflex core shooting line for best handling abilities.

What else have I forgotten...........?
 

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Simon -

I'd love to try the 11/12 floating with an 8 ft intermediate sink tip compensator and a 15' type 3 sinking tip on the two-handed ocean flyrod.

I'll PM with snail mail address.

THANKS!!
 

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Hi Peter and all

No loops on the back end as they are designed to be cut to length. We do include three loops in the package for you to use, though.

A number of people have asked for these lines on my rio email, no problem. For those requesting a line on this site, please let me have a name and shipping address (Peter-s-c, Doublespey and idmtgun).

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Simon:

Thanks for the offer to field test the new Rio Scandinavian Shooting Heads!

I would like to get the floating head with 8 ft intermediate sink tip compensator and 15' type 3 sinking tip head. I plan to use it on my Scott ARC 1409/4. I currently use a Windcutter 8/9/10 (585 gr) and a Delta Spey Long 8/9 (630 gr) with this rod. I

From this I’m guessing that I would like the 9/10 weight head. This one could be cut to cover this range of line weights.

Thank you both Jim and Simon for your generous offer.

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I've sent name and address to your email at Rio.
 

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Hi MJYP

The one with the 8' intermediate middle section and the 15ft type 3 sink tip? or the one with the 12 ft intermediate tip only?

Can you let me have your address and I will get it out to you.

All the best
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If I can also raise my hand (well, wave my arms!)..

I'd like to try the floater/compensating tip. Will use same on a 9154 Sage (alternative rod would be the Loomis glx3 rated as an 8-9 euro blank.

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Too cool, I would love the Skagit.... Doh I mean the, floating with an 8 ft intermediate sink tip compensator and a 15' type 3 sinking tip. I don't recall the grain weight (Burkie 8133).

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Juro, are you throwing 845 grains with that thing!!!!
:devil: I was thinking more toward the 600 grain side (31') but yeah, I wanted to see what the limits would be for the biggest gun of the new rod line. Because of Rio's clever new approach I can snip my way back to match. I need something to throw the chicken fly :hehe:
 

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I have a CND 15' 6" Salar that I would like to try the floating with 8' intermediate and type 3 tip for late fall and winter fishing. I am using WC 9/10/11 and 7/8 or 8/9 XLT.
 

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Hi Simon

What a deal. Please put me down for the 11/12 full floater. I will use four feet of T-14 on it and cut it back until it works well.

Name and address:
J. D. Jones
1028 Forest Glen Dr.
Central Point Or. 97502

Thanks Simon & Rio,
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JD
 

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Simon,

Sounds like a good reason to spend more time on the water. If you have not exhausted your supply, I would love a chance to try the 9/10 floater.

Thanks!

Duggan Harman
22515 45th Ave SE
Bothell, WA 98021
 

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I would love to try 9/10 or the 10/11 with the 8 foot tip and the comp. or else just the floater........jim.......

Jim Andre, 455 Rousseau st.
New Westminster B.C. canada
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I'll take....

Simon,

I love this deal. In this instance I will take a 44' 8/9 floater. Can heads/tips be added to this or should I drop down to the 38' line? As you know, I live in Michigan and the rivers here are quite different. What would suit me best for spey casting with heads?

I will fill out the sheet and return it.

My address is:

Dan Szubielski
55592 Apple Ln.
Shelby Twp., MI
48316

Thanks alot, and you know my business will always be with RIO.
 

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Great News, Simon

Simon,
This is an offer that's hard to refuse! I'd love to give the 7/8 full floater
a go with my T&T 1307. I've been using a Loop Adapted head on my
Loop Yellow 13'2 9/10, and a comparison would be most interesting.
Thanks much,
John

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85 Mechanic Street
Lebanon, NH 03766
 
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