They stopped making it because it wasn't selling well enough to keep it in the line. The new EvotecHD in 9-13 and 11-14 models covers those line weights very well. I know, they are heavier and more expensive, but there's only so much demand for large reels. By the way, the Loop #4 Traditional can still be had new. I'm not sure how many are left, but I order them periodically from the US importer/distributor and they're still around. I shipped one out yesterday. Ask your local Loop dealer to call the distributor and order one for you.