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I feel a strong urge to give the "angler" a Sharpe's wading staff suppository!

Presumably he feels that as he's using a barbless single then he's doing his bit in regards of catch & release & conservation?

If he doesn't have a net (which he should) why the hell doesn't he get into the water & tail the fish in the shallows where there is still sufficient depth to prevent the fish injuring itself on rocks like this?

Making a video of it is even worse as some beginners may see this & believe it's OK & how they should land fish. Even if he intends to harvest a fish it still deserves far more consideration than this.

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Fish handling

Whoever these idiots are, they are NOT welcome back on what I consider my home waters!! If I see them next year, I will certainly drive them off the river in no uncertain terms!:tsk_tsk:
 

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Rather than chasing the guy down the beach with a stick, one should first try and educate they fellow on how to properly handle a fish that is set to return to the water.

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Agree .. .but ...

Rather than chasing the guy down the beach with a stick, one should first try and educate they fellow on how to properly handle a fish that is set to return to the water.

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Doubtful he will give your thoughts more than 10 seconds thought. You land/treat fish that way its because that's the way 'you've always done it.'
 

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Same old...just waiting again for double-digit posters to chime in with apologia...

Same old sh!t...yeah "really"
 

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First off there is only a short segment on the Copper River. Most is on Ferry Island Skeena Main stem which is a zoo to start. Second I met the fellows in the Video last summer when there was still enough daylight to be on the river and get to work after having a shower. The fellow who's rod is in the video speaks no English he is Japanese. He does need help and if someone would take the time with him he would abide and honor the rules of catch and release. Where he gets the drag them up on the beach thing is these fellow come to fish sockeye and they are a retained fish and that is how most people handle them when they catch them they do not get put back. This was this fellows first year on this river he had never seen any of the species that run together before and he did not know what he had as was shown by the one fellow also Japanese explaining this is not a fish you can keep put it back. This particular stretch of water has no special waters licence so no one has to pay for rod days there and that is why most people from out of the area fish that stretch also why you see some bad practices as the people know nothing.
 

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Ignorance does NOT make this right. This is about angler responsibility and knowing the rules before you go out on the water. There is no shortage of information on the subject of catch-and-release handling. Keep them in the water unless it's a salmon to be bonked. The local crowd at Ferry island is one of the worst examples of how the two-handed sport should be conducted.

We all started somewhere, and perhaps we all haven't handled fish the way we should have, but a point of recognition of fault is needed so these habits are not perpetuated.
 

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Ignorance does NOT make this right. This is about angler responsibility and knowing the rules before you go out on the water. There is no shortage of information on the subject of catch-and-release handling. Keep them in the water unless it's a salmon to be bonked. The local crowd at Ferry island is one of the worst examples of how the two-handed sport should be conducted.

We all started somewhere, and perhaps we all haven't handled fish the way we should have, but a point of recognition of fault is needed so these habits are not perpetuated.
I did not justify what was done nor do I condone it. What I said was nobody showed him. This fellow showed up as I was leaving the beach every morning for weeks. I stayed a couple times and watched him learn to cast and had a coffee with him. He just does not know I never saw him catch a fish but it is obvious he did. He did try to communicate and ask questions I think that if some one took the time and helped him instead of watching the fiasco then he would have learned properly. I did not see one person on the beach there showing him what was right what was wrong nor trying to show him the difference between species. The whole beach knew he was learning as well as we all talked about it. There are a few weeks on that stretch you can catch steelhead, Coho, Springs,Sockeye and Pink in the same day. I do not believe in burning a fellow for making a mistake it is when the mistake is repeated my attitude changes. He did way better than a few of the other people along that stretch I turned in for killing steelhead and they were from the area I have seen them before these are the people that should have their fishing rights revoked. I do not know if the fisheries did show up or not but I do know there was no hope for the fish they killed. That happened more than once this year on that stretch of river.
 

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I did not justify what was done nor do I condone it.
I was surprised none of those other anglers showed him the proper way too. I appreciate you playing devils advocate but this is pretty cut and dry. Going to a foreign country and disrespecting it in such a way; whether it be the trees, fish, people, sidewalk, anything, is wrong. Someone not showing him is no excuse for treating a fish in such a poor manner. Hope he never comes back
 

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I was surprised none of those other anglers showed him the proper way too. I appreciate you playing devils advocate but this is pretty cut and dry. Going to a foreign country and disrespecting it in such a way; whether it be the trees, fish, people, sidewalk, anything, is wrong. Someone not showing him is no excuse for treating a fish in such a poor manner. Hope he never comes back
I am not playing devils advocate here. I am just saying no one knows this gentleman and he is not here to defend himself. I do not think it is fair to pick a video up off the internet repost it and publicly roast a guy that you have not spent the time to get to know. It is no better than what is shown in the video.
 

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This is not a roast of this angler's character. This is about pointing out bad fish-handling technique. Whether we know anything about his character is not of importance. And to add fuel to the fire, he posts this on the Internet. Who of us really wants this as an example for the world of how it should be done in Skeena country?
 
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