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My rod is now on order. I was going to buy my son a cheap rod but decided to get this for me and he can have my 1308. I`m sure he will suffer tho not to bad.

Soooooo I Just want to do the line buying thing one time. I will be buying a multi tip line. Rio shows the 8/9 Mid Spey and the 9/10. I`m sure the Airflo Long delta would be about the same. Are these the best or do I want to get into the Grand Spey ?

So for you guys that have one of these sticks what multi tip line do you like?


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If you have been spey casting for 3 years or longer, the long-belly GS or XLT makes sense. However, if you have not been spey casting at least 3 years, I recommend you avoid going to the long-belly line until you get more experience and the better technique that comes with it. I'd recommend you go with one of the mid-belly lines until you have been spey casting 3+ years to avoid developing bad habits.
 

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What Tip Line

The most consistant tip line recommendation from the Steelhead Specialist owners I know is the 8/9 Delta Long or MidSpey.
The only way to find out for sure what will work best for your ability and style is to try before you buy.
 

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Off the shelf, the Midspey 8/9 or 9/10 tips are good. I haven't cast the Airflos.

If you find yourself wanting a longer line for tips in the future:
I fish longer lines, and am very pleased with an 8/9 XLT cut back 25' and looped, which leaves me about 66' of head without the tip. Dr. Way Yin suggests tips up to 200 gr/15', and he's on the mark. This line turns over with authority. Put rod length, head and tip together and you've got lots of reach without shooting line. The best feature of this rod/line combo is that it fishes well near and far because of the progressive rod and chopped continuous taper line.

I hope you'll post back on either this thread or the original one, and let us know what you like. Congrats on getting an amazing rod too.

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Just to add to the ever-growing array of lines the Steelhead Specialists "likes" I fished an Airflo Long Delta #10/11 with a tip and it felt like the line for it.

I am just about ready to declare that the rod will cast any damn line you care to try - and cast it well :eyecrazy:
 

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I think for tips the Mid Spey Or Long Delta will be fine for me. So I guess the best choice there is the 8/9 ? One thought I have, is I have a 7/8/9 Windcutter with the upgrade. That makes the length and weight about the same as the 8/9 mid spey so I will try it before I buy anything.

I will aslo take all the demo lines from my local shop that might work and see what I like. I wouldnt mind a long belly line for a dry line. I get tired of stripping and shooting on some of the runs I fish. The Deschutes is only 30 minutes away, but I will pack a big lunch to try them all.

I will let you all know how it goes. The rod should get here about the time the tempurature gets in the 50s so it should be fun.

If anyone should ask about a line for the 1308 Custom, just hand them the 7/8 long delta. on mine it is the best line.
 

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long belly lines

I Love my XLT lines. And I like to find water that gives me an excuse to throw a long line. At the urging of a friend, who said I cast too far, I put a Grand Spey line on one of my rods. The thought being that the rod would be overloaded and incapable of casting very far. And the fat tip would negate the use of an indicator........ Don't get me started on that!

Well,,,,,,the rod, a little 12 ft 7/8 wt Angler's Workshop with a 7/8 Grand Spey with 10 ft of T-14 added right to the tip, will easily throw those God awful heavily weighted two fly rigs we use here on the Rogue, a good sixty feet. Maybe more. Not only that, it does it with such authority I can do tuck casts and aerial mends. Don't know what that line would do without the sink tip ,,,,,,never tried.

So, for me anyway, the Grand Spey will be my tips line, and I'll save my XLTs for dry line work.
 

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Oops - another line for the Steelhead - the 7/8 XLT .

I will use it only for dry line work (as I have lots of "cut lines already") but I know that cut back to the proper length the XLT will turn over any tip in existence.
 

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Another Line is...

I also know a guy that thinks the Steelhead Specialist and the Airflo Delta Long 7/8 is the sweetest casting outfit going.

I am just about ready to declare that the rod will cast any damn line you care to try - and cast it well :eyecrazy:
I'm starting to think Kush is right on.
 

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The Saga contiues

My rod should get here around the end of this month, sometime after the 25th. So far I have the following lines to try.

Windcutter 7/8/9/ with tips and upgrade

Windcutter 8/9/10

Long Delta 7/8 full floater

Long delta 8/9 full floater

My local shop doesnt have any of the Grand Spey SA XLT or Airflo Traditionals in his demo box, so I will see how it goes with these. It should give me a good idea of the short to mid length lines. I will post my likes and dislikes of each.

Update: just got off the phone he also found a GS 8/9 I can try. I think it will be to heavy but I will give it a toss or two.
 

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Your 8/9 long delta will be a great line, thats the one I seem to use the most on that rod. 8/9 grand is nice in close and the 8/9xlt is even better. I could go on for sometime about the lines the specialist casts well it is an extremely versitile rod and will work with a few of the 10/11 lines as well. It may be my favorite of that whole series of rods, at least until the other two come out.:D



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It may be my favorite of that whole series of rods, at least until the other two come

Other two???????What other two???????

The Specialist was one of the rods I got to play with at last weeks Kauffmann's Spey Days. And I have to say, it was one of, if not the most amazing rod I have ever laid hands on. I tried two long belly lines on it. Grand Spey and XLT. Sorry, don't remember whether they were 7/8's or 8/9's, but the rod did not complain. No matter how much line I put out, that rod just kept on going!

I would like to add this little "nugget" as Nuburo calls them about long belly lines. Yes, they are a little more difficult to learn to cast than the shorter belly lines. But,,,,,,,,the shorter belly lines, being more forgiving of, shall we say, less then perfect technique, tend to encourage bad habits. That is to say, they fool you, by letting you think you are a good caster. And maybe you are, until you try and cast a long bellly line. And then you find that 3+ years of bad habits are rather difficult to un-learn.

So,,,,,If you think you want to use a long belly line, do yourself a favor and find someone who knows how to cast them. A little help goes a long way and can save a lot of time and frustration, not to mention,,,,,, money.
 

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Other 2 Specialists?

I heard a rumor of a 14'4" 7wt. to be added to the Specialist line-up. Don't know its status but I thought it might have made an appearnce at the Kaufman's Spey Days.

I would love to know what the other Specialist rod is going to be. I assume it is not the Spey Tracker as I think the 12'2" 5/6/7 is part of the Custom series.

Anyone with information?

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Actually there is a 7 wt in the works, except I believe it is more in the order of 13'4". As well, a 15'-ish 8 wt is also close. While neither will be Specialists and will be designated Grease Liners they will still use the IM8 graphite that the Specialists use.

Nobuo did not tell what colour they will be, but I do know they will be different from the Specialists. I know he was disappointed that the factory had a delay that kept him from bringing some prototypes to the Kaufmann's Clave.
 

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Grease Liners

Hey, you mean someone, not just someone but Nuburo, is going to make a replacement for my old 8150? Haleluya,,,get in line brother,,,,,,behind me.:D
 

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My Steelhead Specialist arrived yesterday. It past the wiggle test last night and I have it ready to go to the river this morning. I have 4 lines to test on it so I will report back on how it goes.

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skilly!!!

am so looking forward to getting on the river with you tomorrow and giving your new baby and try! am already putting the money away for the next purchase! damn that person who said you can't own just one... they're right!!!!!!:whoa:
 

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Lines

Just got back, so here are my first impressions of the rod and the lines I tried. The rod feels great in my hands. With the Tioga 12 it balances right under my hand. For some I know this does not matter , but for me this is a biggy. The wokmanship is first cabin, Guides and wraps cork all top grade. And some day I will get used to the Sage green.

Juro:::: Sure glad I bought this. You cant have it back!!!!

Windcutter 7/8/9 with the upgrade casts nice. At over 80 ft this big rock on the other side of the river kept getting in the way. For me it was the best of the day. This line using the upgrade is almost the same as the 8/9 mid spey. So I think the Mid Spey 8/9 or the Long Delta 8/9 should be a good bet. I will probably buy one of these lines.

Long Delta 7/8 Nice clean easy casts to about 80 ft. But with any wind or big flies it wouldnt be the line for me. It felt like the front taper was just to light. On my CND 1308 custom this is the perfect line for dry flies on the Deschutes.

Delta Spey 8/9 This was supposed to be a long delta 8/9 but ended up haveing a 74' 6" head on it. It just never felt good to me but then I was trying to cast the whole head. I didnt give this line allot of time. I was in kind of a hurry today, I will ty it again tomorrow. But so far this is on my dont buy list.
If anyone has a box of demo lines that you would like tried let me know. I would **** to try them all.

Skilly:D :devil:
 
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