Hey fellas, as the title suggests Im looking for some opinions on a new TH for trout. Im still new to the game but am enjoying it immensely. I currently own the redington dually 7130 which I use OH for the salt (unsuccessfully anyway) and I built up the anglers roost 11' 2/3, which with a scandi line from steve is FANTASTIC for dries. That is currently my trout rod, however Id like to be able to throw some heavier flies and/or indicator rigs. I guess im looking for TH equivalent to a SH 5wt. Any ideas?
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If you like the ARE 11 2/3 (as I do) and you've already proven you can build, why not go with the ARE 12 3/4? I'm building one this winter on that very logic ...
I had been looking at another ARE rod as that definitely helps budget in for a reel and line, But due to the roost blanks disparity in its labeled wt vs measured wt I wasnt sure which way to go. I have heard good things about 12' 5/6 being close to a real 5 wt, so if anyone has any hands on experience Id love to hear it.
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Not sure if you've seen the article about the UHM12 A.R.E. rods, but it has a little chart with grain windows for all of the 2 handed rods. This might help your decision as to which blank to use, it helped me out.
http://theanglersroost.com/products/graphite-rods/graphite-spey-rods/uhm12-ultra-high-modulus-spey-rod-13ft-4pc-78wt-19-handle/
The article should appear below the product description and is entitled "A new breed." I also found the same grain window chart in the photos on the Angler's Roost facebook page.
http://theanglersroost.com/products/graphite-rods/graphite-spey-rods/uhm12-ultra-high-modulus-spey-rod-13ft-4pc-78wt-19-handle/
The article should appear below the product description and is entitled "A new breed." I also found the same grain window chart in the photos on the Angler's Roost facebook page.
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I built up the ARE 12' 5/6, and yes it is more of a 5 than a 6. However that is a two hand 5 weight, so it's more like a 7 weight Single hand. Mine is on the IM6 blank but the UHM has a very similar grain window. I use mine for steelhead and it is perfect for fish in the 3 to 7 pound range, and is a lot of rod for trout. The next rod I plan to build is similar to what you are looking for, a two hander equal to about a 5 weight single hander, and I am thinking about the 3/4 although I am leaning towards 11 feet myself.
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Between my son and I, we own the Angler Roost 11' 2/3 IM6, 11' 3/4 IM6, 12' 2/3 IM6, and the 13' 7/8 IM6.
The 11' 2/3 is extremely delicate, a true single hand 2 weight. The 11' 3/4 has a bit more oomph and comes in at 3 weight single hand. We converted these rods to 2 handers by stripping off the original grips and replacing with 2 hand grips. There is a big big change in action between the 11' 2/3 and the 12' 2/3. The action on the 12' 2/3 would be in the 4/5 range for single hand use. The butt on the 12' 2/3 is significantly larger and stiffer than 11' 2/3 and as a result can handle a larger line. I use a 225 grain skagit on my 11' 3/4 and it casts beautifully with t-8 Mow tips. The 11' 2/3 is better with a 200 grain head and struggles pulling 10' of t-8 out of the water. The 12' 2/3 is perfect for a 250 grain skagit. I will be using these 2 rods (11' 3/4 & 12' 2/3) for my trout fishing. I plan on using the 11' 3/4 for smaller waters and the 12' for bigger water.
My point is don't think the action is the same on the 2/3 with the difference being just the length. They are completely different.
Between my son and I, we own the Angler Roost 11' 2/3 IM6, 11' 3/4 IM6, 12' 2/3 IM6, and the 13' 7/8 IM6.
The 11' 2/3 is extremely delicate, a true single hand 2 weight. The 11' 3/4 has a bit more oomph and comes in at 3 weight single hand. We converted these rods to 2 handers by stripping off the original grips and replacing with 2 hand grips. There is a big big change in action between the 11' 2/3 and the 12' 2/3. The action on the 12' 2/3 would be in the 4/5 range for single hand use. The butt on the 12' 2/3 is significantly larger and stiffer than 11' 2/3 and as a result can handle a larger line. I use a 225 grain skagit on my 11' 3/4 and it casts beautifully with t-8 Mow tips. The 11' 2/3 is better with a 200 grain head and struggles pulling 10' of t-8 out of the water. The 12' 2/3 is perfect for a 250 grain skagit. I will be using these 2 rods (11' 3/4 & 12' 2/3) for my trout fishing. I plan on using the 11' 3/4 for smaller waters and the 12' for bigger water.
My point is don't think the action is the same on the 2/3 with the difference being just the length. They are completely different.
Rickbjr,
I agree on the action for the 11' 2/3. I had considered trying some heavier lines because of its large grain window, but I just didn't think the rods action would work for my intended use. If you were looking to throw some larger weighted flies/indicator rigs, would you say the 12' 2/3 would be sufficient, or do you think the 3/4 would be better suited? My only experience with anglers roost rods is the 11' 2/3.
I agree on the action for the 11' 2/3. I had considered trying some heavier lines because of its large grain window, but I just didn't think the rods action would work for my intended use. If you were looking to throw some larger weighted flies/indicator rigs, would you say the 12' 2/3 would be sufficient, or do you think the 3/4 would be better suited? My only experience with anglers roost rods is the 11' 2/3.
Frobombs,
The 12' 2/3 is sweet. Don't let your experience of the 11' 2/3 lead you to believe the 12' 2/3 is a buggy whip. It is a fine action and will handle larger flies, it will cast a 250 skagit with authority, it has backbone but will still flex when you have smaller trout on.
The 12' 2/3 is sweet. Don't let your experience of the 11' 2/3 lead you to believe the 12' 2/3 is a buggy whip. It is a fine action and will handle larger flies, it will cast a 250 skagit with authority, it has backbone but will still flex when you have smaller trout on.
That sounds about what I'm looking for. Most of my fishing is done local to NYC so most of my trout are in the 12-16" range. I wanted to be able to do some nymphing but didn't want to feel like I was fishing for bluegills with a 2x4. I think I'll check out the 12' 2/3 and have Steve make up another line for me. Thanks everyone for the input!
I,m late on commenting but have an anglers roost 5/6 12 ft and find it casts well with a scandi head in the 330-350 grain wt for me , a 380 was to much i thought and like the 330 best. I also have a 3/4 wrapped but have,nt finished it yet. Hoping it will work great on the Columbia for trout. The 5/6 is a much better action than the price would lead you to expect. I also bought a 7/8 from Johnny but not as fond of it,maybe just never found right line for it. If you don,t mind wrapping a blank you can use better cork than the ready made ones
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Did you order the im6 or 12? What is the grain window for this rod? Looking to build a small spey also and are has such good reviews . Is the 12' 2/3 better in im6 or umh12? The black gloss finish sounds out so character with the flake finish.
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I bought the IM6, pretty much for the price. I have heard the UHM blanks are a bit lighter and a little stiffer, neither of which was a huge concern for me at this time. Im not sure what the grain window is for this rod yet, however on the 11' 2/3 I built, I use a 179 gr SGS scandi line steve built for me, which works awesome for dries, but have heard guys using up to almost 350 gr lines also.
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