Need advice on a 5wt
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Trout Speys
I have been using and experimenting with trout sized light spey rods for about 8 or 9 years and use them quite a bit on the Madison,Yellowstone and Missouri Rivers. Most major rod makers have one "trout spey" in their line up and there are several custom makers that produce fine trout speys. I actually just got a 12' 2" CND "Spey Tracker" from Japan yesterday with the CND 5/6 line so I have been comparing my 5 wt's. Also, there are some "5 wt's" out that are more like 6/7 & 8 wt's. Many people use long belly, triangle (delta) taper and even "nymph" lines in the 7/8 wieght class to properly load a "5wt." spey. So, if you are looking to throw a true 5wt. spey line, it is almost beter to match the rod to the line than visa-versa. It's a hard item to purchase because not many fly shops carry them (depending on your location) and as of now, they are definetly specialty items. I'm pretty sure Bob Meiser will send you one to try out if you pay for shipping. Anyway, a few rods, in my opinion, that cast a windcutter 5/6 well are:
Scott LS2 12; 5WT.
Loomis Streamdance 13' 4" 5/6
Bob Meiser 11' 7" 5,6,7
CND Spey Tracker 12' 2" 5,6,7 (#7 designation just added to this rod)
Thomas & Thomas 10' 6wt.
Winston BX 2 11' 7wt.
If you have any questions about ultralight spey rods let me know and I'll try to answer them. Good luck - Lawrence Stuemke
I have been using and experimenting with trout sized light spey rods for about 8 or 9 years and use them quite a bit on the Madison,Yellowstone and Missouri Rivers. Most major rod makers have one "trout spey" in their line up and there are several custom makers that produce fine trout speys. I actually just got a 12' 2" CND "Spey Tracker" from Japan yesterday with the CND 5/6 line so I have been comparing my 5 wt's. Also, there are some "5 wt's" out that are more like 6/7 & 8 wt's. Many people use long belly, triangle (delta) taper and even "nymph" lines in the 7/8 wieght class to properly load a "5wt." spey. So, if you are looking to throw a true 5wt. spey line, it is almost beter to match the rod to the line than visa-versa. It's a hard item to purchase because not many fly shops carry them (depending on your location) and as of now, they are definetly specialty items. I'm pretty sure Bob Meiser will send you one to try out if you pay for shipping. Anyway, a few rods, in my opinion, that cast a windcutter 5/6 well are:
Scott LS2 12; 5WT.
Loomis Streamdance 13' 4" 5/6
Bob Meiser 11' 7" 5,6,7
CND Spey Tracker 12' 2" 5,6,7 (#7 designation just added to this rod)
Thomas & Thomas 10' 6wt.
Winston BX 2 11' 7wt.
If you have any questions about ultralight spey rods let me know and I'll try to answer them. Good luck - Lawrence Stuemke
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Light two-handers
Gary Anderson of Anderson Custom Rods makes a bunch of terrific light spey rods in 3, 4 and 5 weights. The line designations in the small sizes are admittedly a bit arbitrary, since there aren't any superlight two-handed lines, but the Anderson rods will cast a 5/6 Windcutter. They also won't overpower a decent sized trout. They really shine with shooting heads (as will most of the other light spey rods mentioned) and can even sling some surprising lengths of dense (Airflo T-10 or Rio T-8) sink tips with a Skagit cast.
Gary Anderson of Anderson Custom Rods makes a bunch of terrific light spey rods in 3, 4 and 5 weights. The line designations in the small sizes are admittedly a bit arbitrary, since there aren't any superlight two-handed lines, but the Anderson rods will cast a 5/6 Windcutter. They also won't overpower a decent sized trout. They really shine with shooting heads (as will most of the other light spey rods mentioned) and can even sling some surprising lengths of dense (Airflo T-10 or Rio T-8) sink tips with a Skagit cast.
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Why Japan?
I have a client from Tokyo who is very very good to me.
Did you know it only takes 6 days to get a package from Tokyo to Bozeman Montana - kind of amazing isn't it! It is going to be in the 40's tomorrow and I am going to go out to the Madison with some lightweight speys, LS2 5, Loomis 5/6, Spey Tracker and several new lines. I'm trying to find a skagit line (I am just getting in to them) to throw large sculpin patterns on them. Any ideas? Still planninmg to come over to the Clearwater soon - Lawrence
I have a client from Tokyo who is very very good to me.
Did you know it only takes 6 days to get a package from Tokyo to Bozeman Montana - kind of amazing isn't it! It is going to be in the 40's tomorrow and I am going to go out to the Madison with some lightweight speys, LS2 5, Loomis 5/6, Spey Tracker and several new lines. I'm trying to find a skagit line (I am just getting in to them) to throw large sculpin patterns on them. Any ideas? Still planninmg to come over to the Clearwater soon - Lawrenceloomis
I have a loomis metoiious streamdance 13'4 5/6. It is soft action. I use the small windcutter tips with it, a good match. Very fun to use. A great tool for streamer fishing. also great for nymphing, huge mends can be made and the tip can follow the fly a long distance.
Not an inexpensive rod, $500, but not many (any) rods in the 300$ range for that size.
Jay
I have a loomis metoiious streamdance 13'4 5/6. It is soft action. I use the small windcutter tips with it, a good match. Very fun to use. A great tool for streamer fishing. also great for nymphing, huge mends can be made and the tip can follow the fly a long distance.
Not an inexpensive rod, $500, but not many (any) rods in the 300$ range for that size.
Jay
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I mean the Tamar. For me the optimal grain rating of 370 seems to match a 5/6 WC nicely. I haven't tried it yet but I think a CND 5/6 will also be sweet. If one wants a skagit line a WC 9/10/11 belly section (approx. 330grns+/-) with a 100 to 150 grain 15' tip also does nicely.
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