Anybody have line recommendations they'd like to give for a Meiser 11'7" 5/6/7? Also, anybody use this rod on steelhead up to 10 lbs. aka trinity or klamath? Does it have enough guts to handle these fish?
I use this rod for fish in that class with no trouble. It's a great rod. For floating line I use a Salmon/Steelhead Taper AFTMA 8wt. Skagit style I use a short head for tight spaces that is described in a recent thread 'Troutspey Skagit line for tight spaces'. There are discussions of this in the archives with numerous other recommendations.
Thanks I found that thread. Actually your post also made me realize I was missing a lot of info, for some reason my preferences were set to only show the last 3 pages of threads so I couldn't find older info on this.
I really need a stick that will be fun with 4-6 pound steelhead I'm kind of tired of "tuna boating" them with my 7136-4. I am also having a hard time dialing in a rod that will really work for me on the Truckee, it's so big and powerful - as are the fish - that I'm using fast 6/slow 7 9-10 ft. single handers but they are tiring me out. Sounds like this may be the right stick for me.
hi i use this rod with a hardy mach 1 8/9 salmon line works really as long as i remember not to muscle the casts. as for fish fighting i use it on the deschutes for steelhead and for smallmouth bass on the columbia. also once landed a 28lb chinook at herman creek i do not recommend that but it held up.great rod\
weight forward #8 would work great for a floating line. I have used the SAS #8, as well for trout, smallmouth, and steelhead. I am still working on a better Skagit line. I will put together one of Carl's lines and give it a whirl. It would also be great off the beach with the right Outbound line or a shooting head for SRCs or silvers. Pinks anybody?
The OB11 is a fantastic line on that rod. Also works great with poly leaders for an easy DIY sinktip. Use the whole head out side the tip for skagit casts. Or strip in 10-12 feet and hold the end of the rear taper for amazing overhead casts. You can overhead cast with the whole 37ft head, but you have to be real relaxed on the delivery. That said, with a single water loaded backcast I can easily shoot 5-7 rod lengths of running line with the overhead cast, thats about 90-100 feet. This is using 12 ft leaders and either foam poppers or weighted flies in sizes 2, 1, 1/0 & 2/0 for stripers in the 3-13 LB range.
I would ask Bob himself for his recommendation. However, the 5/6 CND GPS line has been dynamite on most of the 5/6 rods out there. If you are interested in a line with a bit longer belly with a smooth personality them maybe the GPS is for you. I know it rocks on the 12'6" Black Spey and the 12'2" Tracker.
The 5/6 CND GP is a great greaseliner for either Trouting or Nads <> Not only for the 11'7", but most any other well designed 5/6 line numbered rod that will have a real happy 400 to 500 grain window.
All the GP lines really fish well.
Other off-the-shelf lines <> Other situations:
Short Belly shooting heads (Skagit) with float/sink tips to 150 grains for either anchor point or extreme distance two handed overhead delivery:
Rio Skagit 350/400
Full sink/full float lines for either cold water or Tropo utilizing THOH deliveries:
Grained correct Airflow 40 Plus or Rio Outbounds with sink rates and coatings to meet conditions.
J.R. ... The OB and the 40+ are great lines for minimizing the need to stand on a ladder at Pyramid Lake for consistent and effortless THOH 90' plus search casting deliveries to those big High Desert Cutties with that 117.
... Sure saves the wear and tear on the arms and shoulders versus all day double hauling the single hand stick ....};^)...!!!!
I've got an 11'7" blank that I'm (slowly) building up, and have done a bit of casting with a few different configurations of taped-on guides. It casts the SA Steelhead 8 for spey well, though the strong butt feels like it can handle a little more. For tips: saltwater WF13 cut to 23' belly @ 380 gr (gr/ft is like a shortened RIO 450) + 10' of T-14 tip. Moves a lead eye leech and shoots well. Overhead nice with WF9 and WF10 for 38' heads. This isn't "finalized" info for me, more real world use is needed, but not a total guess either.
Steve, I've tried the SAS #9 as well. It just loads more deeply, but isn't overloaded. That rod is such a smooth progressive loader that it has a wide range of good casting, same as my CND Steelhead Specialist. I haven't run across many rods with that characteristic, but I love it.
I'm the proud new owner of Steve's (SSpey) 117 experiment. I think his 520gr for a Skagit-style tip line is pretty close to the mark.
I lined it up with a chopped Rio 450 Skagit head (400gr) and 8' of t-10 (80gr) and it seemed to ask for more.
I have a chopped Rio 550 Skagit that I have been using on my 6126-Z Axis that is probably 450-460gr. I've been using it with t-14 tips at 7,8 & 9ft depending on the size/sogginess of the fly. I'll give this line a go next. I'm sure it'll be on the heavy side (550gr+), but there is a chance I'll go ahead and trim it to pair with the 117.
For overhead, I tried an Airflo 40+ 9wt and felt like it could handle more. I might prefer a slightly more weight forward taper than the 40+, though I like that line. Any thoughts on intermediate or sinking shooting tapers? I have very little experience with 2-handed overhead casting.
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