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As much as I love my Spey Rods and get more into Spey Casting and solving the great mysteries of the universe, like what damn line works best for a specific rod.

I have come to the conclusion that in some streams and in some conditions a pure Spey Rod is not that desireable (Heresy, I know).

Shad fishing in the fly fishing lines on the American, the Russian and the Yuba River are examples. Some of the smaller streams like the G & G streams on the coast, parts of the Trinity and my home water, Putah Creek with even the smaller Spey rods really limits where you can fish.

Or fishing off of a boat in tidal waters with swirling winds doesn't lend itself to a great Spey Rod adventure. I did this two weekends ago in the Napa river fishing for stripers. The Spey Rod remained in its case, and my LaFontaine 6' weight did a good job if the wind was behind me.

My problem is a really bad right shoulder that prevents me from double hauling and booming a single handed rod. So I really need the two handed casting system for the above waters.

A friend has suggested the R.B. Meiser two handed rods and in particuliar the S2H106~7/8 Rod. Here is the description of this rod from Mr. Meiser's site:

S2H106 ~7/8
This incredibly light, high performance rod was originally designed to efficiently perform a wide variety of presentations needed to successfully fish the 5 to 10 pound Rogue River summer run Steelhead, and the huge wild Rainbows found in the high desert lakes and rivers of the Klamath Basin in Southern Oregon. These are diverse and demanding watersheds, that test the maximum capabilities and abilities of the angler and his equipment. Techniques required to fish these waters run full circle. From greased line presentations swung over tailout Steelhead, to throwing 350 grain shooting heads into a brisk Klamath Lake wind. This rod is an absolute joy to cast and fish, and will far exceed the overall capabilities of any single hand fly rod in its comparable weight class.

Fishing the Deschutes river for native Redside Rainbows and Summer Run Steelhead can be one of the most productive, yet challenging experiences any avid fly fisher will ever encounter. Its early summer Stonefly hatch is comparable to any found in the Rockies and, the October Caddis hatch will not only put you on top water action for Redsides to 24 inches, but for 15 pound plus Summer Steelhead as well. A humbling combination ! The river is closed to boat fishing. It is one of the hardest wading rivers in the west, and the banks are often lined with a thick corridor of rocks and tangles of bank side riparian. A combination that makes for a very tough overhead presentation. A well presented spey cast will open up literally miles of water that the fly fisher would not be able to reach with the conventional overhead cast. The 7/8 is designed with this in mind, and with a balanced line, has the two-handed capability of easily spey casting in excess of 90 ft.

It will throw big bushy flies into a stiff mid-day Montana wind, and it has the power and reach to throw an air born mend into an indicator better then anything you've ever experienced. The 7/8 has proven to be the rod of choice by many big water Rocky Mountain anglers, as they perform as well from the front station of a drift boat, as they do from the riffles. It has also proven to be an excellent salt water flats rod, easily delivering long reach, soft landing presentations over spooky Bones, Permit, and Snook.

This rod is totally unique in its weight class, yet is lighter then most 9 ft 7 wt. single handers. This is truly an exceptional fly rod, and the longer you own this rod, the more applications you will find for it.

Applications
• Two-handed overhead casts to 120 ft. utilizing shooting head system.
• Single hand overhead casts to 90 ft. with balanced conventional lines.
• Two-handed underhand spey casts to 90+ ft.
• Floating and sinking multi-tip shooting head systems to 350 grains.
• All fresh and saltwater game fish to 15 pounds.
• Indicator nymph techniques.
• Greased line presentations.
• High stick nymphing
• Big bushy dry fly presentations.
• Float tube presentations.
• Large to medium rivers, large to medium stillwaters, salt water
• shallows and flats...Large Trout, Silvers, Atlantics, Bass, Bones, Stripers, Permit.
• Available in 2 & 3 piece
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One big advantage is that Mr Meiser has tested this rod with the WC 678, and that is the line that he recommends for this rod. I own that line and would not have buy another darn line.

This sounds like this rod and my Sage 7141 could handle about any medium to big water in N. Kali and Oregon for steelhead and Silvers.

Has anyone used these Meiser two handed rods? I would appreciate any feed back.

Thanks.
 

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I've never heard of them but it sounds like it will just about fish for you.

Rods like everything else have applications that they perform in and others they don't. Having fished Putah I could not imagine fishing it with a two hander. Have you tried learning to cast with your left arm? Not easy, but for some applications it might be easier. I guess the spey could double as a way to cross Putah without wading. I would guess the 7141 and 7136 would be great for the lower Sac, the Trinity, Klamath, Eel, Russian, American, and the Yuba (where I caught my first steelhead on a dry).... Spey casting from the boat could be done as long as you left an area to anchor the line.

J, you ever tried that on the Cape?
 

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I'm curious why you believe that the Spey rod is not suited to rivers like the American, Russian, and Yuba? I used to fish these rivers extensively (for Steelhead) when I lived in California and their relatively large size and even gradiant would seem to make them ideal candidates for a light two-handed rod. Fishing a speyrod on Putah Creek, on the other hand, would be a bit overkill.
 

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Spey rod fishing on American, Russian, and Yuba is great unlesss it is shad season with a line of fly fishers or there are steelhead lines that can happen on the Russian and American.

Those rivers, in particuliar the Yuba and American in the middle of the week are great playgrounds with a spey rod with the exception of the shad runs and steelhead runs in January/Feb..

However, during the shad runs, the shad seem to pocket up at certain areas. You often have a long line of fly fishers with shooting heads or Teeny's with Spin Casters in between the fly casters doing the double haul. There is really no room for a Spey caster with my minimal levels of skill. During a heavy steelhead run on the American, it can become lined fishing very quickly.

Ironically, the fly shop manager at Sweeney's today, was going to give me a call re taking one of my Spey Rods to work the lanes on Putah Creek from the bridge below the dam up as far as we can fish below the dam. The problem with even the shorter Speys on Putah Creek is that I can only fish in about 4 areas with the brush and trees around and along side the stream. I saw him as I was buying some stuff that I probably don't need. Either Sage 7 works well in this area. I barely get my waders/boots wet, and I can cover areas that guys with a one handed rod can't get to because the really fast running and high water now.

Thanks for your input.
 
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