Ok guys, you helped me out so much so far, I have another request. Nor quite sure if i want to sopend so much $$ on a SAGE rods that wouldn't be my primarily rod. So I am looking at teh Loops. the shop that I got the Sage from also carries the Loops, but cannot find much info on their Blue Line series. I have read Dana's review of the Green 9132-4, sounds like a nice rod, but may still be up there in $$, plus it may be too fast for me (is there such a thing). Just wish he reviewed a blue line though. how are these rods? Secondly, what is the Loop warranty? I live in Calif and I am getting the rod from Canada. Will i have warranty issues. i bought my Sage from there as well, and didn't ahve a problem from Sage. Any comments on either the blue line 9140-4 or 9132-4. How soft is the black 9140-4? From what i understand the green is the fastest followed by the yellow, blue then the black.