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Hey Everyone

There has been plenty of time pass now since the little Arc hit the market so let's hear some opinion's on line's for this little wonder...there is only one opinion in the archives...

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For short belly I would use an AIRFLO Delta 6/7 or even the 7/8 or Rio WC equivalent. For mid lines the AIRFLO Long Delta 6/7 or 7/8 and long belly- xlt 6/7 or 7/8. If you like a full loading rod (Type B description from RIO) go to the heavier line weight or if you prefer less loding (type A) go to the lighter line weights.
This is about my all time favorite rod and it throws floating lines and tips with ease.
 

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One of the better seven weights out thier!!!! Personal fav's are 6/7 mid w/tips, 7/8mid w/ triangle taper on front is great for floater. Also a good rod for throwing some of the shortbelly heads with tips, 9/10 hardy head is awsome on this rod.
 

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Thanks Brian... I was hoping to garner an opinion from you... It's one of the other rods I bought this fall thats got me in the dog house with my wife. come on people I know there's more opinions out there.... HELP!

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Inch for inch, I think the ARC 1287 is probably the best spey rod ever made, by any manufacturer.

I designed the SA XLT 7/8 around this rod, and this is my favorite combo. One can literally throw 30 or 120 feet of the 7/8 XLT with this rod; for a shorter head, I like cutting 18-20 feet off the back fat part of the 7/8 (just before the rear taper), splicing some SA saltwater 0.035" instead of stock running line, and - viola - a wonderful medium head line (~75').

The SA 8/9 medium head is also a very nice casting combination up to about 110 feet of line. The older TT Spey 8/9 is also a good combo, but limited in distance. The SA short head 8/9 will throw reliably up to about 105 feet.
 

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Inch for inch, I think the ARC 1287 is probably the best spey rod ever made, by any manufacturer.

What about the CND Solstice 13’4”, 14’3” or even 1308 SP which can be used as a all around rod? I would give an edge to the Solstice rods. They have, for example, faster recovery rate.
I do have ARC 1509-4. Great rod .

BTW, How would you compare the new Scott Spey rods LS2 to Solstice?

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Salmo: Everybody has their individual favorites! What works for one fisherman may not for another, and what works for one skill level may not for another. Such is the spice of life, and what makes the large variety of top quality rods available for today's spey fisherman so exciting. Such a difference from only a few years ago.

I know (quite exactly) what I like and am looking for in a spey rod: what action, weight, balance, stiffness, and range ideally suits my fishing style and requirements - the LS2 range was designed, especially the 1408 through the 1610 models, to reflect these tastes with incredible fidelity (not easy!). The 1287 ARC and the LS2's are very different in construction, action, and feel - they represent two different "families" of rods, much as a manufacturer's single hand lineups will differ in personality and feel. I enjoy casting and fishing lots of different rods, and back-to-back comparisons are the only way to really get to know the performance nuances between different rods.

The LS2 1509 has a much tighter feel than the 1509 ARC, and for me, has considerably more range, yet is lighter, less expensive, and in a 4 piece design. With regards to casting, any good caster can coax decent performance from most of today's top drawer rods, and the primary difference then comes down to a preference for feel, versatility, and performance at the edges of the envelope. There really is no substitute for taking a rod out on the river and casting it as if you would be fishing it, with a couple of different lines that suit one's style. The best test yet is to spend a few days on the river with a rod, as then the rod and fisherman can really "get acquainted".
 

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Which rod I like the best...

I can without hesitation tell you which spey rods I like the best. I like them all!!! :whoa:

Everybody has their individual favorites! What works for one fisherman may not for another, and what works for one skill level may not for another. Such is the spice of life, and what makes the large variety of top quality rods available for today's spey fisherman so exciting. Such a difference from only a few years ago.

There really is no substitute for taking a rod out on the river and casting it as if you would be fishing it, with a couple of different lines that suit one's style. The best test yet is to spend a few days on the river with a rod, as then the rod and fisherman can really "get acquainted".
Well said spey_bubba!
 

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Everybody has their individual favorites! What works for one fisherman may not for another, and what works for one skill level may not for another. Such is the spice of life, and what makes the large variety of top quality rods available for today's spey fisherman so exciting.

I agree 100% , but but your previous statement was way to general.Inch for inch, I think the ARC 1287 is probably the best spey rod ever made, by any manufacturer.


I would still appreciate your opinion about Solstice Series, if you had an opportunity to cast them.

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I do share way yins opinion on the Scott rod mentioned, Who ever designed this rod either got lucky or really knew what they were doing. knowing what I know now about rod design it is very possible to get lucky once in awhile. I would say that the solstice rods are very good for there intended use, which is summer grease line fishing. They are some of the lightest rods I have ever cast which is something I truly appreciate in a summer rod. They are not a power house rod like the specialist series with ample amounts of reserve, they are not a rod I would want to throw intruders with on skagit type heads. This of course is only my opinion I am sure some guy somewhere is casting 15' of t-14 on his 13' 4" with a 6" long bunny leach and loving it. Thats the beauty of our sport :)
 

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Hello Salmo:

I have had the pleasure of casting a number of Nobuo's rods, including the Solstice series, and have had the opportunity to fish hard with several. Out of respect for the many fine rods lovingly made by any number of manufacturers, many who are represented on this board, I'd like to reiterate that everyone has their own particular favorites. The 1287 ARC remains, in my personal opinion, the most capable, inch for inch, spey rod ever made. In the 7 weight, 12 to 13 foot category, I would put the T&T 1307 is right up there as well, although I think the ARC has more top end range; the T&T has a "tippier", yet still very light feel to it, and balances quite differently from the 1287.

Every rod lineup has its "honeys", and few have their "dogs" as well. It would appear that rod making - despite the advanced science of computer-aided design, state-of-the-art materials and manufacturing techniques, and varitey of lines available to fish - remains more art than science; the intended target market for a particular rod is dependent on input to the rod designer from consultants. Sometimes a rod will behave exactly as desired, but miss what the market really wants; as techniques and lines continue to evolve, the target is often a moving one as well. The really great rods have withstood the demands of constant change, avail themselves with any head length and a variety of casting and fishing styles... ultimately to become modern and ageless classics.
 

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Spey bureaucrat!!!

Spey bureaucrat!!!

Take a stand man -- what's the best . . .
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Hey Peter, I've been called a lot of things but never a spey bureaucrat. Since you think I'm stradling the fence maybe the term should be "spey politician". However I stand by my statement. I've never met a "spey rod" I didn't like from the most inexpensive to some pretty high end models. Also there are a great many models I have yet to cast. Four rods that do have special places in my heart are the "junk yard spey" which is a symbol of my humble beginnings, the St. Croix 14' 9/10, my first "real" spey rod, the Sage 9140 greenie, and last but certainly not least what is in my opinion one of the great spey rods of all time, especially if castability and price point are considered, the CND Expert 1409.
 

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This of course is only my opinion I am sure some guy somewhere is casting 15' of t-14 on his 13' 4" with a 6" long bunny leach and loving it. Thats the beauty of our sport

I think you have used an extreme example. I doubt anyone want to cast 15' of t-14 ( 210 gr) on his 13' 4" . This rod cast beautifully 6/7 midline floater as well as 6/7/8 windcutter with 15' type 6 tip ( 95gr!!!!!!!!!).
Take 14'4'' Solstice and both MidSpey floating or with 15' type 8 tip ( 109 gr) cast fantastically.

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Martin,

You should have been at the Carnation gathering to watch Todd Scharff cast 15' of T-14 on the end of a Scandanavian head with a 10' 6" Meiser rod.

Rich
 
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