[borderfly]

This question has probably been asked before but I'm going to throw it out there. I'm testing several new lines for a set-up I just purchased but can only test on grass.

What kind of set-up is used for grass and is it a good true indication of how the different lines will act?

Thanks in advance.

KC

 

[sinktip]

The simple answer is there is no substitute for water.

If you must cast on grass to simulate a floating line and mono leader, make up a grass leader. It it just a tapered mono leader but the lower third has a double nail knot or blood knot tied every 3-5 inches with the tags left 1.5-2" long. These tags grab the grass and simulate water stick.

This works ok for simulating a floating line but I'm aware of no way to simulate a sinktip or full sinking line.

 

[fredaevans]

+1

Sinktips 'nailed it;' no substitute for actual water but the above is as close as you can get.

Fred

 

[troutless]

I'm testing several new lines for a set-up I just purchased but can only test on grass.

What kind of set-up is used for grass and is it a good true indication of how the different lines will act?

Not even water is necessarily a substitute for water. Lines will cast differently on still water than moving water. A line you find loads nicely on a pond you may find is too much load when you get to the river. It's not like it will throw you into a different line weight but there is definitely a perceptible difference. And I'm talking full floating lines, there is no practical way IMO to test a sinker on anything but moving water, and preferably moving at close the speed you intend to fish.

 

[fredaevans]

Troutlless makes several very good points.

Not even water is necessarily a substitute for water. Lines will cast differently on still water than moving water. A line you find loads nicely on a pond you may find is too much load when you get to the river. It's not like it will throw you into a different line weight but there is definitely a perceptible difference. And I'm talking full floating lines, there is no practical way IMO to test a sinker on anything but moving water, and preferably moving at close the speed you intend to fish.

A given line will 'react' differently on still vs. moving water. Moving water adds a bit more 'drag' but helps lift your line to the surface (think sink tip for a moment). This slight drag helps you quickly load the rod.

With a 2hander you'll really see the difference regardless of the line being used.

fae

 

[Bwana Bill]

KC,

As pointed out, there really is no sub for water. Being in a Nevada desert, I'm surprised you even have grass!!:hihi:

Something I've tried that somewhat works (at least for me), to gain a bit more of an anchor on a "grass" leader is to add a small bead here and there on the little tags. Again, not a real sub for water casting, but it seems to help a bit.

The lines went out in yesterday's mail, by the way. You should have them in a few days.

-Bill

 

[borderfly]

Bill,

Good one! We moved from Michigan 4 years ago and miss the rain and snow deeply! Kids are about finished with HS and once in college we are out of here for good!!

Can't wait to try the lines thanks.

KC

 

[speyhurricane]

Cast on wet grass

When i practice on grass, i found if it's wet (dew or rain) it feels a bit better. However, like everyone else said above, there is no substitute for moving water.

 

[Bwana Bill]

KC,

If you went through this past winter we had here, you wouldn't be missing it much at all!!

Take your time trying out the lines, I don't use them, and get to some water!!!!!

-Bill

 

[borderfly]

Bill,

Thanks they will be getting wet in the Trinity soon.

Still miss I guess I would call it the east coastish. It's amazing the stuff you miss, thunder storms, fishing in a snow storm, humidity, trees, grass, mud it goes on and on. Life moves forward and changes shape you.

Now I get to fish.

North Ump
Trinity
Klamath
Des chutes
Rogue

There are always something positive.

KC