But Gene, we all want to cast 150' plus! That's why we spend so much time casting across the river into shallow barren water on the far bank. It's human nature and a guy thing. What fun would it be casting 15' into productive water at your feet! 😁I have seen many fisherman (not competition casters) struggle with anchor placement by going flat. One in particular was having so much trouble that I suggested to him a slight dip (I call it a curtsy) to help place the anchor in the proper position. When he did this he was immediately “in the game” and making very acceptable Single Speys. For absolute distance no way would I dip however, we have to remember most guys want to fish and are not interested in 150’ casts all day long. If a slight dip helps them achieve this that’s great! It’s a fishing cast we are talking about here, not competition casting. I would not dismiss the teaching methods of Simon or Ian, they are both great casters. Their methods work for them as well as many other fisherman. I’m sure most of us all started out in this game doing high lifts and big dips but we evolved over the years to using flatter rod movements. 99% of the guys just want to make acceptable fishing casts, if a slight dip helps then good for them.