Took someone's advice here and checked out the Hardy JLH Golden Salmon, which has been discontinued and discounted up to 50%. Got mine a week or so ago, and though I haven't fished it yet, I've loaded it up with my 8/9 xlt, about 75 yards of backing (maybe more, but hard to say), and have tossed a few loops with my Burkie 13'9. Perfect balance. Had been using a Lamson LS 4 with that xlt, which seemed a tad big for that rod. Anyway, love the simplicity of the Hardy, and then there's that sound. I'm even looking forward to feeling a little out of control with that minimal click and pawl drag.