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I am looking to expand my skills a bit and move from only using short heads into a longer line. I have been told that a 15' rod such as the Loomis Greased Line or the Sage 9150 would be nice used rods to learn on and fish on larger rivers. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? or other ideas? I don't want to spend a lot on this as my opportunities to fish such a rod would be limited to less than one week a year.

Also, reel and line recommendations for this type of set up would also be helpful.

I have looked into used Sage 9150 but have become confused about the "colors" such as brown, teal, green, etc. So any help with this would also be appreciated.


Thanks for helping out us new folks.
 

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In my opinion, it depends on whether you want to learn to cast a mid-belly or long-belly line or not. If the answer is yes, then a 15'er is worth having. If the answer is no, then you ought to save your money.

The TFO Deer Creek 15' 8/9 is a very good 15' rod that is relatively cheap at $350.00 new. It was designed by Bob Meiser and long-time WA State steelhead guide Mike Kinney. This is a lower price for a new rod than you will find a used Sage 9150 or Loomis Greased Line rod. Since you said you'd only use such a rod a week each year, the Deer Creek 15' 8/9 seems to me to be a good way for you to go.

Be aware, that I really like fishing with rods between 15' and 18' with long-belly lines and do so for most of my steelhead fishing summer and winter, so my opinion is a bit biased.
 

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if you plan to use only floating lines, or short tips lines, then 15' rods in 7 - 9 wts are often nice and easy over a long day

if you plan to use med/long line tips, then a rod with a 9 in the designation is a minimum, and a 10 wt gives noticeably more authority. These can also be used for floating line work very effectively, but carry the curse of added heft if you aren't going to take advantage of the power

the Sage 9150 rods, regardless of color, are the same stick. The Sage 8150 is the older and softer version

there are lots of 15' rods on sale in classifieds here and elsewhere, as people move towards short rods and shooting heads. Recommending any particular rod depends on your preferences with respect to action and applications (which you haven't stated), just as it would be with recommending a shorter rod.
 

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There are many good 15's out there-If you have some extra green the CND Ultimate 15 is wicked,The Meiser highlander's and tfo's are great and a great value,the Loomis greasedline are great-If you can try before you buy
The best longer lines available are the CND's or Carrons. in my opinion
 

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Thanks for your input

Thanks to you who took the time to respond. I appreciate your help.

I currently own a sage 8136-4 and a fly logic FLO+1308-4 This may tell you something about my casting preference or at least what I have learned on.
 

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I personally use a Thomas and Thomas 15 ft 10 and 11 weight for my big sticks. Tough to beat these rods in pure power and performance. IMO they have more feel and life than the Sage rods.

While I have not cast the TFO Deer Creek 15 footers based on their genesis they should be very good casting tools. Although for longer lines the regressive taper design of the Deer Creek could be inferior to a faster action taper.

My two cents...
 

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I myself was in the same situation and wanted to start chucking longer bellies on bigger waters, since I had a 14ft rod I didn't think the 15ft would be signifigent enough difference. On a bit of a whim and with some help from a couple friends I went for one of Meisers 16ft rods, in the 6/7/8 designation, and couldn't be happier with my choice. I would definately wait to hit a clave and chuck a few rods before making the commitment, but swinging this stick all day is just a blast.
 

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Poppy at the Red Shed has a Burkie 9149 for a great price.
The above Burkie is gone. I do have a CND Expert 1510 for $300.00. This rod will cast like a dream with a 9/10 or 10/11 Delta Long depending on how deep one likes the load. Easy casting traditional action rod designed around mid-head lines. This is a great stick for rivers like the Clearwater.:smokin:
 

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Ditto what flytyer said about the Deer Creek 15' 8/9. For the money it's a great rod. Kinda depends on how much you want to spend. As always, go somewhere to cast several rods with experienced casters and you will learn alot about rods and casting.
Good Luck.
Long rods are fun!! :smokin:
 

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The Winston BIIx are sweet rods. The make one in a 15' 9/10 weight. I think of it as more of a 10 wt than a 9. The BIIx line are some of the lightest rod in the industry. Weight of the rod is something that you will think about after casting and caring the rod all day.

The BIIx line of spey rods come in weights ranging from 6 wt to 10 wt. Try one and compare it agains the other rod out there.

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I have the Deer Creek 8/9, absolutely love it...
but what I lust for in my heart is a real Meiser 7/8/9 15' Highlander.
 

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More thanks

And thanks to the rest of you for your input. I am going to take your advice and try a few before I decide.
 

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I will be at the Fly Shop in Redding next week. If you like I will leave an LPXe 15' 10/11(9/10) there for you to try. I think you will find out why it has been at the top of the list for so long. Let me know
 

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15' Footers

It's great to see some discussion on long rods and line. Two of my favorites are the Meiser 15' 7/8/9 and for a little more power the Burkheimer 10153-4. The latter is really nice with the Carron 85' 10/11 (Thanks Speyforsteel and Highlander2).
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Lots of really great rods mentioned in this thread, but in case none of you guys were paying attention to what the original poster said, and I quote:

"I don't want to spend a lot on this"

That would leave everything mentioned so far out except the Deer Creek 15'-8/9 or something second user. One other rod in the lower price point that is pretty nice casting is the Echo "TR" 15'-10wt.
 

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I use the Loomis Greased Line 15' 8/9 and i do enjoy throwing it. I use the Grand Spey 8/9 tips line and also the Carron Jetstream 10/11 works well with this rod. If you do not want to spend a lot of money on a new rod follow Poppy or flytyer's advice. You are getting a lot of good advice on here from folks who know what they are talking about, Good Luck and enjoy the long rod as it is the only way to go :hihi: .
 

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'm jealous of you guys who have lots of longrod water to play on...I get to use my 15' nowhere near as much as I'd like. nasty flows this year in my parts.
very cool, troutfly...longer rods are a blast. 'course there's guys on this forum who consider a 15'er a little Barbie pole:chuckle: but it's all relative. Enjoy your journey with it, that's what it's all about. Having fun and being happy.
regards, Bob
 

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Not sure if I should start a new post.

I've been float fishing/centre pin fishing with a 15' noodle rod for a long time now. That being said, when casting float rods/noodle rods, you can feel the load all the way to the but section or even further, so I would like something where I can feel that kind of load, not to the but of the rod but I would like the feel the load when casting.

I'm looking for a 15'er that can handle both sinking and floating lines and something that I can use to cast long distances.

sorry for the newbie question. and I know Ill probably hear a lot about trying different rod, which is okay, but I would like to hear your thought and opinions anyway.

Thanks!!
 

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I have a tiny bit of pin experience (I use a 15' pin rod)
The Deer creek and Meiser rods have a similar load feel to many of the longer pin rods as do some of the Scottish rod's(big buck's) the Cnd ultimate 15 is also in that class.
These all fall in my prefered rod action-full flex with a powerfull tip.
 
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