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Looking for alternative to using lead eyes. What are some heaviest modern irons around? Looking for relatively long hooks to tie on some sparse Snow style flies.
 

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There was a time in an era long ago, an angler had choices of hook selection.
There were hooks and then there were irons. Irons were the medium to heavy wire version of popular hooks. The angler would tie the pattern on the iron to help sink the fly, keel properly in heavy currents or to ensure the hook did not disfigure and open causing a lost fish.
Not sure why we have lost this option over the years, mostly in the last 10 years or so. Alas, a sign of the times ....

Since you have mentioned you are looking for a longer shank hook, I will limit my response to the following:

The Blue Heron McNeese hooks will probably be your best option. Sizes #2 and #1 have large gaps that can be closed with a pair of pliers and strong thumb pressure. I do this regularly and have not encountered any issues with breakages.

Daiichi 2271 - The "Low Water Dee Hook" is an excellent option. While not being "heavy" wire, it is more of a "medium" wire, much the same as the old Code "N" irons.

Daiichi 2060 - "heavy" wire wet in sizes 1.5 and #3/0. This would classify as an "Iron" in my opinion. The heavy version of the 2050. The shank is 3x, so that classes this iron as long in my books.

Not familiar with any other modern long shanks.


Mike
 

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Are the Daiichi 2060 the same material as the AJ Irons? I used to tie on the AJ Irons but they were super brittle.

I like the Gamakatsu T10-6H hooks for sink tip flies. A bit heavier than the BH hooks and a lot cheaper!
 

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Mustad's RUSSIAN RIVER SIGNATURE FLY HOOK is 5X strong, very sharp, and likely the least expensive hooks mentioned. They have a Limerick bend, and a down eye. A very good winter streamer hook, which make good snow flies.
 

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Tmc9394 is a straight eye streamer hook.
If I need to get down, I choose this hook in size 2.
Point is extremely sharp.
I like to taper my bodies with thread or floss to help keep an even keel while swinging. When I do taper, it sinks even moreso. Add a sparse dressing and it sinks like no other hooks I've tried.
One of my favorites on a long leader.


Partridge Ken baker CS-17 are a close second for heavier gauge streamer hooks. I like to bend the shank a little so that the hook point is not exposed. It does seem to dull quickly when it rubs up against rocks, bottom, or after multiple hooked fish. Bending in the point will help it stay sharp longer. Prefer this hook over the daichii 2271 that has a similar shape, but not as stout.

Here are some poor quality pics of the hooks....
 

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