Guideline Bill Drury 62ft 8/9 with tips. Running line and a few feet of the rear taper have been cut off. Braided mono aqua sealed loop on the rear. 56ft 602.4 grains. Float, Intermediate, S1S2 tips included. Airflo 7/8 tips work very well on it if you need something deeper. Good line to step up to from Skagit-Scandi lines. Very positive turnover.