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One im looking to weight is the heaviest 15' versileader. On paper it states almost 180 grains... im having trouble believing that.
 

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Length Sink Rate Weight Strength
10' Floating 35 grains 24 lbs
10' 1.5 ips (3.7 cm/s) 51 grains 24 lbs
10' 2.6 ips (6.6 cm/s) 64 grains 24 lbs
10' 3.9 ips (9.9 cm/s) 67 grains 24 lbs
10' 5.6 ips (14.2 cm/s) 78 grains 24 lbs
10' 7.0 ips (17.8 cm/s) 117 grains 24 lbs
15' Floating 55 grains 24 lbs
15' 1.5 ips (3.7 cm/s) 79 grains 24 lbs
15' 2.6 ips (6.6 cm/s) 95 grains 24 lbs
15' 3.9 ips (9.9 cm/s) 102 grains 24 lbs
15' 5.6 ips (14.2 cm/s) 138 grains 24 lbs
15' 7.0 ips (17.8 cm/s) 180 grains 24 lbs
 

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I routinely weigh all my versileaders before I go to work on them and they always come up within 2 or 3gr. of the stated weight.

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Normal for the industry

Some manufacturers worse than others, I base it on the coating process, does 2-3gr really matter that much??
 

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I have several newer Rio ( with 0.019" stronger mono-core ) 10' Versileaders, which I weighted on laboratory balance +/- 0.01 gram ( or 0.15 grain) accuracy :

3.9"/sec is 64 grains

5.9"/sec is 66 grains

6 foot versileaders from 2.9"/sec to 5.9"/sec are in 44-47 grains range.

The newer versileaders are based on thicker 0.019" core then the one made few years ago ( 0.016")
 

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2-3 gr. doesn't even count to me. But 10 or 15 gr does, which is why I weigh everything when I'm building multi-density stuff. Most lines and sink stuff come in pretty close to the advertised weight but some are way off.

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Anyways... what is the actual weight of the 7.0ips 15' versileader?

Im having hard time to think that its 180gr... I handled one few times and it just didnt feel to be anywhere in that category... Flyfishing research tested this leader and equivalent sunken depth found this leader to be in same range as 13.5 t14 thats as deep as I will ever want to get. But that 180gr would make sense then... lol im lost...

I want to loop one on my multi tip 7/8 Deltas to see if it is castable at all.
 

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As mentioned

I am sure if you weighed 10 or 100 they will vary due to the process
 

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sink tips

A $10 or $15 grain scale would eliminate all doubt. Al Buhr's little book on How to Design Fly Lines will give you the answers as to how to determine what sink tips will work with what lines. Tools I have found essential in removing all the guess work, not to mention costly & frustrating mistakes, when dealing with sink tips.
 

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The problem is that I have the $15 scale but no $15 tip...
 

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Anyways... what is the actual weight of the 7.0ips 15' versileader?
lol im lost...
I want to loop one on my multi tip 7/8 Deltas to see if it is castable at all.
7.0ips sink rate is Rio type 6, which are available starting at 4wt-61gr. Unless you are trying to turn over intruder type flies, 180 grains is not necessary.

If you are trying to turn over intruder types, I doubt any of the type 6 tips be up to the job due to the mono core upon which they are built. Suggest you have a look at the type 8 tips starting at 10wt-150 grains which I have found sufficient. Although I find T-14 MOW tips better suited for conditions requiring the use of intruders, and that is most likely unworkable on the Delta 7/8
 

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No im not looking to cast big flies with my Delta 7/8 but I feel that those supplied 13' tips are a bit light to some winter water I fish. Braided cores on tips traps air and are generally thicker than those with mono cores. Thicker the tip the more water lift.

Im just gonna take a jump on this one and do some testing myself. Likely will end up chopping a couple feet of my Deltas.
 

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15' 7 ips Rio Versileader is 102 grains based on my scale readings. Thank you all participating.
 
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