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HI All..

Bought an interesting card from at Spey-O-Rama that has a chart about fishing depth, etc. The card (as well as the guy I bought it from) mentioned a website that I have tried to log onto, but requires a password. I'm wondering if anyone else has some info, or if that person is a board member here. Tha site as listed on the card is:

www.FlyFishingResearch.net

Thanks for any help!!

Scott
 

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Thanks RJ; make me the second person wildly waving a hand in the air ... as in Me Too! Me Too!!
 

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In addition to the card, I picked up his business card:
Tom Keelin, who can be reached at tom(AT)FlyFishingResearch.net
I have his phone numbers if you want them send me a PM and I'll PM them back.
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I got an Email from Tom at Fly Fishing Research and he explained why his website isn't currently "open-to-the-public".

Apparently, he has been contacted about publishing some of his research and didn't want to re-publish all of it. Makes sense to me. He was nice enough to provide access for me to look at his draft website and it's interesting to my analytical mind. I will have to go out and try some of the SECRET TECHNIQUES listed therein!! :Eyecrazy:

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Pooie.

Was really looking forward to seeing that 'sink tip' info. I suspect (not an original thought here) that sink tips are far less effective than most folks think in moving water.
 

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Sink Tip Information

Its not from the above site, but from one of Frank Amato's (Portland, OR) publication, "Flyfishing & Tying Journal", Winter 2005. Unfortunately, the article, "The Spey Fisher's Guide to Sink Tips" is not availalble, on-line, and I try and respect copywrite (some of us do, Voodoofly). But, in summary, here are the details:

Clackamas River, OR, pool selected was one frequently fished by the guide (Robert T. Russell) for steelhead, classic steelhead riffle where they had caught fish in the past.

They sledge hammered a piece of rebar into the stream, mounted a marked white PVC pipe over it, then took pictures and measured where certain activities and combinations placed the fly. They measured how far down in the water column the fly ended up.

Set-up: 14', 9/10 wt spey rod, WC 9/10/11 and 8/9 wt set up. They made numerous trials, and noted different ranges of depth for the same rig.

Standard Rio and Airflo sink tips
Results:
Sink Tip Grains Range of Depth(")
Airflo Type 10 (10') 235 22-29
Airflo Type 8 (10') 165 21-27
Cortland LC-13 (10') 130 26-30
RIO Type 6 11wt (15') 166 22-27
RIO Type 3 11wt (15') 166 20-25
RIO Intermed.11wt (15') 166 15-19
RIO Type 6 8wt (15') 109 25-32
RIO Type 3 8wt (15') 109 20-27
RIO Intermed, 8wt (15') 109 14-20

All mends, both upstream mends,downstream mends, and casting 60 degrees upstream were tried, all made a difference in the beginning of the swing, but ended up higher in the water column at the end.

Don
 
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