First one I thought was a little too full so I stripped half the hackle on the second. Both wings arent perfect, the wing split on me on the backside on both. I need some better BM, I'm running out of the good stuff I got from a duck my buddy shot. He's got two more waiting for me though! I got some from Feather Craft fly and it is maybe big enough to tie a size 4 fly on, maybe:roll: I also think I should have used small oval for the counter rib. Aaron is going to be getting an order from me for some more BM and some Teal for sure!