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I fish the green Sage 9140-4 most often, but am finding I want something faster, a rod that casts with more authority in a stiffer breeze. I usually fish lines in the Mid-Spey world, often with tips. All other things being equal, price is a factor. Could you folks suggest some rods I should cast?
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Since you said that price is a factor, the Loop Yellow or even better (although it costs a bit more) the Loop Blue; the CND Expert at around $345.00; the St Croix spey rods; the G. Loomix GL3's; the Redington RedFly speys; or the spey rod that Speybum had me cast on Saturday (I forgot the brand name) that sold for about $250.00 would do waht you are looking for.

If price is no object, look at T&T, Loop Green Series, GLX, or CND Specialists.
 

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I have the loomis gl3 1409-3 it is much facter than the 9140 sage but i wouldn't consider it progressive at all.. The majority of the flex is in the tip making it hard to load the rod deep into the butt section.. progressive means that the load is distributed evenly through out the length of the rod For an example go to a shop where you can feel bothe the winston ibis and the sage 9141 you'll feel that the winston has a ton of flex in the tip and very little in the butt ( not progressive) and the sage 9141 you'll feel flex throughout the length of the rod ( progressive)

keep in mond it's not an issue of a good rod vs a bad rod simply a difference in design concept.
my personal preference is for a more progressive rod whether fast or slow..
 

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T&T 14 Ft 9 wt 3 Piece

Hey there,

I am interested in privately selling my T&T 1409 at significantly below market rate. As you will see if you search the discussion board, this is a fast-action rod. As advised by Simon Gawesworth in person, I fish it with an 8/9 midspey and it's a great match. Amazing rod for casting a floating line, and it'll handle significant tips too. My preference is to sell the rod with a Ross Canyon 6 reel and the midspey multi tip line as an overall package (a package I cannot find fault with!).

Dana - please whip this off the board if it is inappropriate to post it, or maybe I send an appropriate 'commission' in funds to the board? I'm trying to avoid learning the whole ebay thing!

If you are interested in the rod or the rod/reel/line package please call me on 503 224 1739.

Rod has been fished no more than 12 times - selling as I can only own two rods at a time and enjoy swapping them. Its in immaculate condition...The reel bares working scars of clambering around the great Pacific North West, but was serviced last year.

All best,

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UK, not inapprpriate at all . BUT ..

`you do want to post the info (rod, reel, price, etc.) in the 'for sale by owner' section of the board. That's were folks go to look for equipment.

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Try the Heritage 14' 8/9 and the CND 13' 8/9. Both under $300, both excellent traditional action.

If you are near enough we have them both on the try rack at River Run Anglers. You can take the lines you want to test on them and spend an hour or two on the river testing them.
 

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gonna try...

I've talked to a number of folks about this, and am going to try the CND Custom 1409. My green Sage is more of an 8/9 and sometimes isn't up to the pushing needed in a stiffer breeze. I haven't been able to lay hands on the CND to try it, though. I did order from MJC (gotta support board sponsors and members where we can!). Can anyone comment on how the Custom handles pushing in a breeze?
 

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Custom

The custom has a deep well of reserve power. If you match it with the correct line, Say a MidSpey 8/9 with tips, you will be amazed how you can pop the bottom hand and tighten the loop. It is like pressing the accelerator pedal.

I have been testing one all summer with a variety of tips and it performs better than anything I have cast so far.

I think you find the Expert performs above average as well but less $$. Both have the accelerator pedal reserve....
 

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As well as the 1409 Custom and Expert, CND is now coming out with a couple of Specialist models in the 14' range. These rods were first introduced to the at the big Trade Show in Denver a couple of weeks ago and were a definite hit with the double-hander crowd.

The first, the 13'8" Skagit Specialist is a rod with an action similar to the 9140-4 except it has the reserve power that the 9140-4 lacks. This is due to the high tech graphite found in all the Specialists as well as the progressive action design that Nobuo loves. As the name suggests, the rod was designed specifically for the Skagit style cast - short heads, heavy tips and big flies. Tests by noted Skagit casters have resulted in glowing accounts.

The second rod is the 14'4" Steelhead Specialist. This rod may be the true "all-round" rod in the CND stable. Once again, the use of the Specialist graphite creates a light powerful rod that is a joy to use. In testing this rod I was suprised and impressed by the range of lines the rod handled. It was excellent with the short head Skagit casts, yet when we put an 8/9 GrandSpey on it, it was casting the whole line 20-30' into the running line - it was very impressive.
 

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Call these guys/thanks

I talked by phone today with both MJC and Speybum. Thanks to both for discussion and education as I get ideas on what rods would match my need for a quicker but progressive 14' 9wt with good reserve power for fishing Mid-Spey length and sometimes Winter Line/Grand Spey length lines with tips. Although I'm not really looking at pulling the big $ trigger on the T & T, I am learning more about and taking a close look at both Loop and CND rods in various lines. I learned some more info about the new CND Specialist rods that are in process from Aaron (Speybum) too. Thanks, also, to Dana for email input.

We're fortunate to have such quality people in this community who are so willing to share their knowledge (and with all of them their sharing was not about making a sale but about helping me find the rod I'm looking for).
 
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