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Anyone get to cast or own the new Echo Glass Switch rod in the 3 or 4 wt?

I was doing a google search on echo switch rods and found that echo has a new glass switch rod in 3, 4, 6, and 7 wt. I wouldn't mine owning the 3 or 4.


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The good: the wife got me the 4wt for my birthday.

The bad: the birthday is at the end of the month.

I'll be sure to give a full reckoning when the rod's been properly christened. I'm anxious to see if the grain weights are really the same as the SR -
 

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I cast the 3106 Echo glass rod a few months ago, it was the rep. demo sample.

Nice casting with the limited time and line we had available.

Really like the rod concept for ultra light trout, the Scandi we had was the RIO 210gr and it felt a little heavy. This is actually good for me,, I have been searching for a TH rod that is under 200gr line weight. Airflo has a 175gr Scandi scheduled for release this year,,, should be the ideal line for this rod.

We can also use the RIO Trout LT lines which are ideal for spey casting.
I have a full set however, have not done the digital scale exercise at this time.
These lines have a long head and the tapers are configured similar to a Scandi.

According to my local dealer,, the 3wt rods have shipped and the 4wt is delayed. Apparently Tim is not happy with the 4wt at this time and wants it right, I like that business attitude.

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I christened my 3 weight on Saturday, courtesy of a few sea run cutthroat and one resident coho. I first lined it with a RIO Skagit Max Short 300 then moved up to a 325 and that felt just right. Obviously, I'm on the extreme end of the grain spectrum compared to FKrow but that may be a result of my preferred technique (skagit casting) and purpose (beach fishing with weighted flies).

I had the head paired with a 10' intermediate poly leader, tied to a small clouser (5/32 oz eyes). Running line was MiracleBraid at first--it cast nicely butI felt that I was a little pinched for distance so switched to OPST 40lb Lazar Line and that was perfect.

In terms of fish fighting, it was a blast with fish in the 14-16" range.

In comparison, I have its cousin, the 3 weight SR (I use the same line set up) There is a noticeable difference in flex profile and recovery rate between the two but not as much you may think. It does bend deeper than the the SR but it's only a little bit slower.

Hope that helps.
 

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Glad to hear they are tweaking the 4, that's the one I have my eye on and if anything I expect reliability from Echo. The 3 could be a lot of fun though too.
 

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Thanks to everyone for the feedback. I already have the SR and was wondering how they would compare.

I am still line testing on the SR 3wt. I have a few that work good but not the sweet spot yet.

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Just ordered a 3106 and a 4wt Ambush Line (195 gr) to go with it last week. I'll put up a review after I give it a try.

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I looked at this rod the other day in the fly shop. Seemed more like a LARGE trout / half pounded type rod than a sub 18" trout spey? Am I missing something? I know they have it rated for lighter lines but still seems heavy for fish right power for trout 12-20"?

Would love to hear some more from those of you that have fished it and could give me some more feed back about fish fighting power and if it is over kill for that size fish or not?

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I looked at this rod the other day in the fly shop. Seemed more like a LARGE trout / half pounded type rod than a sub 18" trout spey? Am I missing something? I know they have it rated for lighter lines but still seems heavy for fish right power for trout 12-20"?

Would love to hear some more from those of you that have fished it and could give me some more feed back about fish fighting power and if it is over kill for that size fish or not?

Thanks
Levi
We will see. I can say that my Beulah Clasic 10'6" 4wt is pretty happy with a 240gr Scandi head (I believe the Echo glass 3106 is rated for a 150-210 grain window) and doesn't feel too overpowered with moderate sized trout 12-15" fish and handles larger fish just fine too. For me it's just about finding a good tool for delivering decent sized streamers in tight quarters, and not being too over gunned for the moderate sized fish. I like to swing with a TH rod and fish nymphs and dries with a SH rod.
 

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Had mine out with a standard WF5 a couple days ago, and it performed decently with the addition of a poly leader. However, I think more mass is needed when there is even a bit of wind.

The experiment continues . . .
 

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Glass 4108

Rajeff musta finally approved the 4 - mine came a couple days ago. The grain window is the same as the SR, but independent line tests have me leaning heavier. I went straight for the 275 skagit and just couldn't get either the timing or the oomph out of the line to turn over a heavy poly in the breeze. A 290gr Ambush seems to wake it up. I'll keep fiddlin' with it-
 

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My local fly shop rec'd their shipment of the Echo glass TH rods.

I must revise my opinion on these designs.

We test cast the prototypes in Oct/Nov and were impressed,,, the production rods are much softer and deeper flexing,,,, border line too soft,,,for my casting style.

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Still messing with the 4108. The Ambush #8 290gr is still my favorite on this rod, and I'd put money on the new Airflo Switch Streamer 300gr that it would sing on it as well. I had it out this past week and was amazed at the distance I was getting out it. This river usually will give up a few 17-18" fish but colder temps had them stingy. I did manage a couple smaller fish that put a bend in the rod-

I was getting out there pretty good with a 325 Rio short and 10' fast sink poly and medium weighted fly, but the Ambush did just as well with the same.

Did try a 280gr scandi, which was passable, but not quite the joy I was looking for...
 

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I received my 3106 the the other day and was able to test it out today. I put a Hardy Princess with a Rio versitip 5wt on it. I found it to be too light as it would not load the rod. I did manage to catch 4 bull trout to 20" on it. While it handled the fish, I would not want to catch much bigger on a consistent basis.
 
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