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Everything I have read, seen on casting videos and heard from the experts told me never to use a snap - T when casting heavily weighted flies. I even warned a fishing buddy who insisted on doing so and still does even after taking the tip of his new switch rod. I was fishing river left with a bridge very close upstream for Chum. My fly was a cone head articulated rabbit strip monstrosity coupled with 10' of t-14. After hitting the bridge a couple of times and loosing one fly using the circle-C , I resulted to yes you guessed it .My 15' , 9wt. T & T is now a four piece. Let this be a lesson to anybody starting out or is as stupid as I. Don't be tempted.
 

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Snap T vs. Circle C?

I was under the impression that these were two different names for essentially the same cast. Isn't that what Dec Hogan says in his book Passion for Steelhead? ("There's no snap, and no 'T'.")
 

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Ah SH!T:saevilw:

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Yeah, and don't try and get sympathy from ANYONE on this board, you're on your own for this stupid mistake. I've NEVER done this. Well, at least not more than once:whoa:

As Poppy would say, SH*T HAPPENS. Good luck with the repair.
 

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I was under the impression that these were two different names for essentially the same cast. Isn't that what Dec Hogan says in his book Passion for Steelhead? ("There's no snap, and no 'T'.")
They are different casts-my preference is the circle
 

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Well, hope you have a back-up while your rod is down for repairs. But I've done this for years (Snap-T with weighted flies), and I've never had that problem (knock, knock.) But I guess it only takes one time, and I can't do a circle (snake-roll) cast with anything other than longbellies.
 

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Large Flies and the Snap T

I'm lost here. Are you saying it was the cast that broke your rod or you got caught up on the bridge and broke it. If it was the cast then you had some kind of weak link in the rod possibly a knick from hitting the tip with one of those heavy flies. I use the snap T all the time with heavy flies and it has never presented a problem for me, in fact I encourage using that cast for large flies, but I guess it all depends on ones style.
 

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I use the snap T all the time with flies with dumbell eyes.

I've read somewhere that you need to keep the rod tip out of the path of the fly.

Instead of snaping down I snap down and to the left to get the rod tip out of the way of the fly. Try this when you get your tip back. :Eyecrazy::hihi:



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I learned the same saltwater fly casting, where 95% of the flies use dumbbells. Always bring down the rod off center from where the line is going.

My first weeks getting used to heavy flies were nothing by clank clank against the rod, now It only happens when I have to abort mid cast to avoid a jogger.
 

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They are different casts-my preference is the circle
They are essentially the same cast. However one (circle) has a wide loop as the fly moves upstream to anchor, while the other (snap-t) has a tight loop. The circle was developed as a means of teaching the Snap-T. It's easier to get a feel for the movement and acceleration.

Weighted or unweighted, the fly should never come close to hitting the rod. Proper execution is key. Once the "snap" or "circle" is made the rod should immediately, but smoothly, follow through to a position downstream and even toward your bank. If the timing is correct the rod is well out of the path of the fly long before the fly travels past the caster. Long before.

The initial lift is also critical to the safe and efficient execution of the cast. (But that's true with any cast. Right?) The heavier the tip/fly the slower and higher the lift needs to be. I want that fly as close to the surface as possible before I make the "snap/circle" move.

Good luck!
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Change that from " fool" to "Rookie"...

It's OK, everyone's done it. Some have been luckier, that's all.
Dec pretty much describes where the rod tip should be half way through the cast BUT here's the thing - you need to always know where that fly is from the time you start your cast until the end. Otherwise it's only a matter of time and you will be talking about picking your presentation out of your jaw bone! Or worse.
So regardless of what you are doing, watch that fly! When that becomes second nature your rod tip as well as your face will never get in the way.
 

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dont whip yourself

Hi CR, buy your self a cheaper , heaveyer rod. this will slow you down, refine your casting and make you appreciate your T&T (GREAT RODS )
Most of us have spent years working our way up to such rods, casting with heavy un balanced rods.Thus when we get our hands on a better rod we have all or most of the needed skills to get the best out of it .
Most of all I am jealous that you can start off with such a fantastic rod!
Just don't do it again ! or you will be visited by anti rod abuse people !:tsk_tsk::chuckle:

Pay for casting lessons or just tie a bit of red ribbon on your arm, to remind you not too ____----


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There is a guy in Campbell River:hihi::hihi:
Chris Sepio is the GL Loomis rep. he lives in Campbell River,
A number of members of the CVFF (Comox Valley Fly Fishers) have bought switch and spey rods, and are doing quite well, it is better to have other people to learn with and watch one another to see all the faults that you/we are making.
Don
 

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My friends tell me Chris Sepio is an excellent spey caster.
 

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Hmmm well isn't that timely, I just bought my first Spey rod and I also live in Campbell River, need to get out and meet some new faces and learn some casting tips.
 

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I fear the weighted fly hitting the rod tip...

...so when told by someone I trust to do the snap, dropping the tip of the rod quickly under the water's surface until the fly has cleared. It works. Maybe my casting sucks, well, in all honesty it does. But this works for me with the tight looped snap or wider looped circle.
 
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