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have a shot at buying an accellllorator,,what's the comparison to the XLT,,which i have but got late in the season last fall so haven't spent enough time with it on water,plenty on grass,seems like it's very light in the front almost too light,so,how's the venerable accelorater going to compare,can get one with tips or without,so as a point of reference,what's it going to turn over like,anything similar that i can relate to or is it all alone!:confused:
 

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The SA Mastery Spey is the same belly/front taper length as the Accelerator, 77', and the Airflow Traditional at 80' is nearly the same. This means the SA Mastery, which also has a long 20 ft front taper, or the Airflow Traditional are going to be the closest to an Accelerator in the way the handle and cast. However, the Accelerator has the "power hinge" in the floating version or with the floating tip on so it unrolls a bit differently when cast than the other two; but the rod doesn't know this.

The XLT is a much different line with a 100' belly/front taper length. To get a more dynamic turnover with the XLT, cut 2-4 feet off the front of the line.
 

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thanks flytyer

i'll try that,,,i love the way the SA mastery turns over heavy bugs!,maybe i can come to terms with the XLT,,it did silence my whining about never having a long enough belly!,,wondering now though,about the overall head length,,guess i'll have to splice, ala Kush since i'm teaming it with an 18ft'r:D
 

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Hammer,

Which 18' rod are you going to use?

The best line I ever used on my 18' B&W was a custom Derek Brown Speydriver. If your rod has a similar progressive action then I would highly recommend the XLT. The combination of the slow powerful flex of the big rod and the long powerful belly that continues to roll out the continuous front taper was a thing of beauty! That seemingly endless unfurling of the cast is what I miss most since I broke the big rods. :(

In fact, the fish in my avatar was the last fish I caught on the 2nd B&W - I broke it a couple of hours later .... wah.
 

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Kush,

You're just going to have to get Nobuo to build a new 18' or thereabouts rod for you that will be more like the Thompson Specialist in action. :devil:
 

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Hey Flytyer...

You're just going to have to get Nobuo to build a new 18' or thereabouts rod for you that will be more like the Thompson Specialist in action.

Are you talking about the "Thompson Magnum"?
 

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MJC,

I think Kush referred to a prototype Nobuo showed him last year as "the beast".

Seriously,

I've talked to several rod makers about making a 17'+ rod with modern tapers and materials so we could have a big rod with less swing weight than the UK rods and a faster action for fishing on the bigger rivers with the big long belly lines like the GS 10/11 without having the rod feel heavy.
 

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Flytyer,

Did you get any positive reactions when talking to rod maker about a 17'+ rod w/ fast action and new light weight materials? I would love to get such a rod. I do not think I would fish it much but would like to have one just for pur casting pleasure. maybe they could call it the PCP.

Hammer, once I cut off the first 4 feet of the XLT I loved it.

Greg
 

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Hey Flytyer...

I think Kush referred to a prototype Nobuo showed him last year as "the beast".

hmmmm, sounds like the BIG T MAG to me.
 

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Daiwa's

i have a couple Daiwa's,,ones a CF98,,8-10,,,other is a whisker,10-12,,,it's a strange piece,,since i figured out how to easily/simply `slug' the handle with weight,i believe Daiwa built the handle separately,,,?plus,the guides,they seem too small towards the tip,,,when sighted down;the lined tip looks too big,i could go on with critiquing the rod,but,`the dragon',,is a mean rod,been using homebuilt sinking/shooting heads with amnesia running line,purchased the XLT for this rod,actually the CF98,`big sky',being a full thru handle blank is much more to my liking,,loads,,well,,yes,loads well,not as industrial as Nooksac Mac would say,plus fully lined rings that line up,but,the xlt,s a 10-11,so i'm thinking a lighter wt acc.been using a DT with some wetcel/and or leadcore onthis rod,but,,,i feel the tru potential hasen't been realized,and being a nine wt,4 piece,she should fit in the drifter this summer to be pulled out when a wave of steel reveales themselves at a riffle!,Kush ,,can't B-W,supply sections,or build them for your 18's?
 

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Greg,

As of now, the answer is no other than from Meiser who told me last month that he may not be able to do it anytime soon.
 

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Hammer,

MY B&W's were very old - generation one graphite. I bought 2 of them for $100 CAN from a guy selling them on consignment while I was working at a flyshop. They were brand new (still had the shrink-wrap on the handles) but he said they had been stored under his bed for at least 10 years - and that was 8 years ago.

Even if they could replace them I doubt I would fish them any more. The modern stuff is vastly superior, my Thompson Specialist is about 1/3 the weight and will out cast the bigger rod. On top of that - as much as I hate to admit it - the years of cranking on big rods has taken a toll on my wrist . While I will still use the big rod on the Thompson ( if it ever opens again ...) but in most cases I am using sticks that are a lot smaller and more appropriate for the waters I fish.
 
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