CND Steelhead Specialist vs. Scott ARC 1509-3
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Sazan,
Everyone has their own preferences. I have a couple weeks experience fishing the Scott but only cast the CND on two occasions. Even so, I would choose the CND hands down.
The CND is a lovely rod that has a nice "faster" progressive action. That is not to say it is a fast action rod as it is not quite in that category. I would call it crisp.
The Scott is popular with a lot of guys but for the life of me, I can't figure out why. It is more of an 8 weight than a 9 and try as I might, I could never learn to like its soft character.
My advice is to try and get both rods and cast them. That way you can decide what fits your style.
sinktip
Everyone has their own preferences. I have a couple weeks experience fishing the Scott but only cast the CND on two occasions. Even so, I would choose the CND hands down.
The CND is a lovely rod that has a nice "faster" progressive action. That is not to say it is a fast action rod as it is not quite in that category. I would call it crisp.
The Scott is popular with a lot of guys but for the life of me, I can't figure out why. It is more of an 8 weight than a 9 and try as I might, I could never learn to like its soft character.
My advice is to try and get both rods and cast them. That way you can decide what fits your style.
sinktip
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Sazan,
Not sure which Scott you are referring to - the Scott ARC 1509 is a 4 piece rod. I would disagree with Sinktip that it is an 8 or is a soft action rod - it is labeled by Scott as medium fast action. Scott makes the A2 in three piece and a couple of the ARCS in 3 piece but not a 15' for a 9wt. The 1509 in my mind is a great all around rod - it casts long bellys (xlt 8/9 and 9/10) with ease. You can cut the xlt back and put on tips and it tosses 15 and even 24' tips and even 24' T14 tips with ease. It handles short belly lines with tips very well. It is a progressive taper so does bend farther into the blank as needed.
Can't compare it to the CND as I have yet to try one but I would put the 1509 as a rod I would not want to be without during winter fishing or even summer runs on big water.
Not sure which Scott you are referring to - the Scott ARC 1509 is a 4 piece rod. I would disagree with Sinktip that it is an 8 or is a soft action rod - it is labeled by Scott as medium fast action. Scott makes the A2 in three piece and a couple of the ARCS in 3 piece but not a 15' for a 9wt. The 1509 in my mind is a great all around rod - it casts long bellys (xlt 8/9 and 9/10) with ease. You can cut the xlt back and put on tips and it tosses 15 and even 24' tips and even 24' T14 tips with ease. It handles short belly lines with tips very well. It is a progressive taper so does bend farther into the blank as needed.
Can't compare it to the CND as I have yet to try one but I would put the 1509 as a rod I would not want to be without during winter fishing or even summer runs on big water.
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Rick,
Good catch on the 1509-"3", I missed that. My comments were in response to the ARC 1509-4. I knew there would be several that disagree. It is much like the Sage 9140-4, you either love it or hate it. All the ARC seem to be that way.
I have read comments from people I respect claiming the ARC 1510-4 to be a cannon for the largest of tips and lines. I own and actually sorta like that rod but only when fished as an eight-weight with either an 8-9 Midspey or a 9-10 long delta. Put my 9-10 XLT on it and it turns into a dog.
The Scott SAS 9 weight I have only cast briefly once but I thought it a nice crisp actioned rod and a good bargain for the price.
'tip
Good catch on the 1509-"3", I missed that. My comments were in response to the ARC 1509-4. I knew there would be several that disagree. It is much like the Sage 9140-4, you either love it or hate it. All the ARC seem to be that way.
I have read comments from people I respect claiming the ARC 1510-4 to be a cannon for the largest of tips and lines. I own and actually sorta like that rod but only when fished as an eight-weight with either an 8-9 Midspey or a 9-10 long delta. Put my 9-10 XLT on it and it turns into a dog.
The Scott SAS 9 weight I have only cast briefly once but I thought it a nice crisp actioned rod and a good bargain for the price.
'tip
I've only cast both of these rods on several occasions, about 15 minutes with each rod each time.
That said, I would get the CND because of its much crisper action and fast recovery from casting load. It is not a fast rod like the T&T's, GLX's, Loop Green Series, or Meiser fast-orgressive rods; however, it is a very nice medium action rod with a good amount of power.
I find the Scott ARC 1509 to be a somewhat slow rod, not as slow as a Sage 9140-4; but certainly slower than a medium action rod. I also find it to be more of an 8 wt than a 9 wt as Sinktip has.
Also, when I cast the Scott with the use of both hands to load to rod (as is my normal 2-hand casting style), the Scott folds up and doesn't like it at all. The CND doesn't complain and handles the double-hand loading motion.
If it were my money and I had to chose only between these two, I chose the CND. However, because I have other choices, I would forgoe both of them and get one of the fast rod with the T&T 1409 being my favorite with Meiser's 13'6" 8/9 a close second.
That said, I would get the CND because of its much crisper action and fast recovery from casting load. It is not a fast rod like the T&T's, GLX's, Loop Green Series, or Meiser fast-orgressive rods; however, it is a very nice medium action rod with a good amount of power.
I find the Scott ARC 1509 to be a somewhat slow rod, not as slow as a Sage 9140-4; but certainly slower than a medium action rod. I also find it to be more of an 8 wt than a 9 wt as Sinktip has.
Also, when I cast the Scott with the use of both hands to load to rod (as is my normal 2-hand casting style), the Scott folds up and doesn't like it at all. The CND doesn't complain and handles the double-hand loading motion.
If it were my money and I had to chose only between these two, I chose the CND. However, because I have other choices, I would forgoe both of them and get one of the fast rod with the T&T 1409 being my favorite with Meiser's 13'6" 8/9 a close second.
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Sazan
I own them both and would not want to be without either. I just cast them back to back on the pond with the carron 10/11 after reading these posts. The CND steelhead specialist I think could cast any line on the planet and does very,very well with this line. The scott 1509 I would say cast it exceptionally well maybe even better when applying the power abit slower. both are great long line rods in the strong 8/9 range and cast the shorter heads well too. You need to cast them back to back with a wide selection of lines to determine which rod performs better for you and the water you fish.
BRIAN
I own them both and would not want to be without either. I just cast them back to back on the pond with the carron 10/11 after reading these posts. The CND steelhead specialist I think could cast any line on the planet and does very,very well with this line. The scott 1509 I would say cast it exceptionally well maybe even better when applying the power abit slower. both are great long line rods in the strong 8/9 range and cast the shorter heads well too. You need to cast them back to back with a wide selection of lines to determine which rod performs better for you and the water you fish.
BRIAN
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