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I was curious if CND Solstice 14’3” wt.7/8 would be sufficient gun for Babine River (or Skeena Contry in general) Steelhead during autumn?
Solstice 14’3” really shines with a floater, like 7/8 midspey, but it also works quite well using 7/8/9 WC with sink tips.
 

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I would say that the rod is more than sufficient for fishing the Skeena system, that said, I would never go fishing anywhere with just one rod. Even when I'm only fishing for one or two days I usually bring a minimum of 2 rods, usually a 7 & 9 weight. Conditions can change very quickly around here, even September can be poor with lots of high water and driving wind and rain.

I fish with anything from a 5 - 11 weight rod, same size fish, diffrent conditions.

What time of year do you plan on fishing?

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Yes it will work. I have been fishing that rod quite a bit of late and in addition to the 7/8 Midspey, I think it really shines with the 450 gr. Rio Skagit line.
 

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For a floating line application, the new 7/8 cnd line really works well on that rod, also the 7/8 grandspey is awesome, especially with tips.

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I believe the new CND 7/8 line has 65' head, weights about 550gr and comes as a multitip line. If Grandspey 7/8 w/tips works well on Solstice 14'3" , the same should be true for CND 7/8 and MidSPey 7/8 using sink tips.

Anyone knows who sells CND lines and for how much?

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The lines were picked up from the factory today and as far as I know a number of shops have already placed orders. I know that Lee and Nancy (CND distributors) are keen to get them out to shops - so it is just a matter of shipping them. Check with your local shop to see if they have ordered some.

As of now all the lines, 5/6 through 11/12 are available.

While I do not yet have the retail pricing of the lines I do know that they will be markedly cheaper than the $160 of a certain imported line and due to them be a smaller run they will more than the "big-name" lines. I will post retail costs once I can get it - but I expect them to be in the $100-ish range.

(see MJC's post below)

Interest has been very high in these lines - those who have used the samples that are around must have been talking! Nobuo tells me that the orders he has recieved for the Japanese market have already exceeded his supply and we are in the process of placing a second order to meet the demand!
 

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What is a difference( from fishing point of view and capability to cast different type of lines) between CND North Fork 13'3" wt.8 and Solstice 14'3" wt.7/8 .
 

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According to the distributor I will have the floating lines (5/6-11/12) in stock by the end of the week. The price will be $110.00. The floating lines are looped and come with a 20' floating tip.
I will also have 18' intermediate tips for the 5/6-8/9 lines and 20' intermediate tips for the 9/10-11/12 lines. Type 3-15' tips for the 5/6-11/12lines and
type 6-15' tips for the 9/10-11/12 lines. All tips priced @ $13.00.
 

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Thanks Poppy for bringing that to my attention - I corrected my above post - I was operating on old info... I need to pay more attention!
 

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I fished the 13'4" 6/7/8 Soltice quite a bit this fall on the Skeena mainstem and never felt under-gunned. It's a powerful rod. More of an "8" than a "6/7" in my view. The 14'3" should be lots of rod for the Babine, or anywhere else in the Skeena watershed.

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You have mentioned that the 14'3" wt. 7/8/9 works well with Rio Skagit line 450 gr. + tip.
This line is also good match for lighter Solstice 13'4" 6/7/8.
I would assumed that stronger 14'3" 7/8 would like heavier Skagit line , like 550 gr. + tip.
 

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Bolwn,

I find the 450 Skagit-type line a good one on the 13'4", however, with this style of set-up I use the Ed Ward type of Skagit Cast ("Edgit"). This sustained load style differs from the splash and go styles and generally uses a heavier line, thus the 450 gr.
 

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Bolen,

Good question and I am certainly not a skagit expert, more of a beginner. I have not fished the 550 on the Solstice yet. What I have mainly been fishing is the 450 Rio with a 12' section of 550 gr. DWE. The rod really loves this set-up as does my 1307-3 T&T. On Sunday, I was fishing a shallow tailout and switched over to a 10' tip made by our infamous Sultan of Splice. This tip is 4' of floater spliced to 6' of T-14. This set-up felt a bit light to me on the 14'3" so I'm guessing the 550 Skagit line would be a better choice with lighter tips.

All of this is using a sustained load (or my best approximation of it) rather than the splash and go.

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How to choose SND rod?

My friend is able to bring it to me... But which one? Length differs-prices too. It must be 6-8# rod. What they put in all their series? What the difference between them? I need just a little story about SND...
 

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Input on CND North Fork and 14'3”, 7/8 Solstice

Is the any significant difference between 14'3”, 7/8 CND Solstice and North Fork 13' 3” 8/9 in handling W/C or MS lines with tips in particular as well as floating version?
Though the 13'3” was designed with Skagit Style in mind, is this rod much better with Skagit lines then the Solstice?

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The 14'3" Solstice will handle Skagit style lines very well, as does the 13'4" Solstice. The North Fork is a very similar rod to the 13'4" except "beefed-up" to an 8 wt. The biggest difference between it and the 14'3" is the length, it seems most of the Skagit-type fishers prefer the 13' range of rods. And as the name suggests the North Fork is very appropriate for the tighter quarters of smaller streams.

That said, I have been using the NF as my rod of choice for fishing on big waters like the mainstem Skeena and the Skagit. The fish are in close and the rod can cetainly handle big fish, but is still a real blast when you hook-up with small steelies or dollies.

I consider the 14'3" to be the "all-rounder" of the Solstice line - much like the Steelhead is the "do-everything" rod of the Specialist line. The 14'3" will handle big water-big fish- long cast situations, as well as short cast smaller fish places. If I were restriced to "just one" rod - for say the Skeena or Skagit systems (heaven forbid such a restriction :tsk_tsk: ) it would be the 14'3" Solstice.
 

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CND 13'4" Solstice 6.7.8

This is an excellent rod. My partner and I have test cast this rod the last three Saturdays at the GGACC. Here are the results:

Floating Line
It was difficult to find a floating line that makes this rod sing; most lines don't bring out its "soul." But Hardy's Mach1 9/10 is magic. This combination will throw darts through those big eucalyptus trees on the south side of the casting ponds.

Skagit Lines and Sink Tips
-Rio Skagit 450 + 129 grain Rio 15' tip [type 8]: not so good.
-Rio Skagit 650 + 166 grain Rio 15' tip [type 8]: very very good, casting 107 feet while wading in 18" deep water of pond #1.
-Rio Skagit 650 + BigBoy 300: very good, casting an obscene distance, but not quite as far as the 650/166 above.
 

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Nice report Bob. You need to get ahold of a CND 6/7 Gravity Point line for that rod. As well, the 624 gr Beulah line (an extreme long-belly that Aaron Reimer gave me to try) was a very good match.
 

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Anybody tried these kind of rods (and by that I mean rods that were designed mainly for skagit style, the CND:s, Meisers, Loomis Dredgers etc) with Guideline Power Tapers?
 
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