I haven't seen any of these rods yet, but everything i heard on the cnd's is that they will fit my needs. Most of the fishing i do is on smaller michigan streams (the PM), and is using indicator rigs. Just about had my mind made up on the cnd custom 7/8, but Juro said i might want the 8/9 for the occasional salmon. Also just talked to a guide that got to cast the new orvis speys, he was pretty immpressed. Really liked the 12'6 7/8? Any suggestions?