Attended the Grand River clave today, good time met some new friends, loaded up on brats and enjoyed a casting clinic put on by the Loop guys Matt Malko and Jay Newell, thank you for the advice and tips. Also ran into Rick Whorwood from Echo who I had the pleasure of receiving my first two handed lesson from a couple of weeks ago, top notch, thanks for your advice and help. I'm most impressed by how down to earth and helpful most people are in this circle, good vibes. I would highly recommend lessons for any beginner to the sport, cuts the learning curve quite a bit. Now to catch some angry steel...