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Looking at potentially buying a Burkheimer but was turned away earlier by some of the long delays experienced by members on this forum. I am wondering if anybody has recent experience getting their rod repaired and if the turn around time is much better. I am not a rod breaker but when you break one and you want it back . . .
 

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"DC,"I may be off on this one but I think Rob Allen

Works for the organization. Shoot him a PM and ask. He's a straight shooter.
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RB Meiser

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Who makes the blanks for his own line of rods? I recall you having one--what's your take on his rods. As a fellow Norcal'er I am looking for a rod for the Trinity and possibly, the Lower Sac.

Thanks,
Chris
 

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I believe that Bob's Blanks come from Italy. You need to ask him.

For the Trinity I would recommend his S2H106 7/8 rod. It is 10.5' long and has two handles. You can spey cast with it, roll cast great distances with it and really work an indicator with a nymph.

His S2H106 would be great for the lower Sac if we can ever have some decent flows.

I also, have a Sage 7136 that was fished for one season that is great for both waters with a dry fly, a slow sink intermediate tip or a Boles indicator with a nymph. I will sell it for $350 plus the shipping costs. I went to the 7141 because the 7136 does a great job in casting floating and intermediate tips but is worthless with sinking tips so it did not work for the Shad in the American River. So my 7136 would be a great rod for both the Trinity and Lower Sac..

With Bob's great S2H106 7/8 and my new Sage 7141, my Sage 7136 is a little redundant. That is why I'm selling it.

Here is the link to Bob's Web site for his sth106-7/8 rod:

http://www.meiserflyrods.com/s2h106-78.html
 

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Dc Chu

Ooops, I forgot to say how I feel about Bob Meiser's rods.

I own two of them, his S2H106 7/8 and 9/10. They are great rods and can be used in places where Spey Rods will not work or might make you very unpopular with other fishers.

Also, they can hammer out the Teeny and Rio sinking tip lines with the wind, into the wind and with the wind right in your face. They work well with the floating and intermediate 8 and 9/10 weight lines that I previously owned.

His 7/8 does a good job with the Rio Wind Cutter 678 (Bob tells you what Wind Cutters to use with his rods unlike some rod manufacturers who make this the great unknown that forces you to buy line after line to find the one that finally works). My main line with Bob's 7/8 is my Orvis 8 Steelhead Slick shooting dry line.
With that line, I can roll cast 40 to 50 feet, lob an indicator upstream 50 to 60 feet, or high stick nymph right in front of me. Trees behind you are no problem with roll casts or Double Spey casts.

You can use Bob's rods in a boat, a drift boat, pontoon boat, kayak or a float tube.

Last but not least, his rods are a work of art that hold up in the stream/river/ocean.
 

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dc_chu,

Unfortunately I recently broke my Burk 7137. Went to take it out the rod sock and the top 1.5 inches were missing. Shook the bag, and out it came. Very perplexed. I build mine from blank, so I just need a new tip rolled. Shipping it back this coming week, time will tell.

As for Meiser rods-

I am quite positive that the most of his rods are made on custom Graphite USA blanks. I know that the 10'6" Switch rods certainly are. While the majority of his more traditional two hander/spey series are made on custom Graphite USA sticks, the series of 11' rods are made on Gatti blanks.

I will second the quality of workmanship. His rods are top notch- as good, if not better, than any custom builder out there. He also builds rods on the big manufacturers blanks- very similar price to what they sell them for in the shops. Something to think about for that new T&T 1307 I have been eyeing for some time now.....
 

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First of all.....Many thanks to you guys for the kind words about my rods !!!

Both the single and two handed rods from my own series are designed and conceived in house.

Although.......My best design improvments and modifications have always been a direct result of on-going feedback from hands - on anglers that either voluntarily field test and/or purchase my rods.

Engineering and roll - up of my rods are done specifically for me by Dick Kantner ~ Roy Hastings of Graphite USA, and Sandro Gatti of Gatti rods.

I feel very fortunate to have developed a cooperative working relationship with both of these excellent graphite shops.

Grampa Spey and dc_chu are correct on both counts !!!

Good Holidays to all !!!..................Bob Meiser
 

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Soooo Bob; my 2002 expenditures are of record ... and Joan

will remind me of each and every (not true).

So, let's hit the Beach with a few of your goodies for 2003.
fae

PS: the house your building in Ashland is looking very cool; great job. Maybe this is an interesting insite: builds a great rod/builds a great house. A solid connection there?
fae
 

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Inland, Dc Chu, Bob Meiser

Inland posted this about Bob Meiser's Rods: "I will second the quality of workmanship. His rods are top notch- as good, if not better, than any custom builder out there. He also builds rods on the big manufacturers blanks- very similar price to what they sell them for in the shops. Something to think about for that new T&T 1307 I have been eyeing for some time now....."

Bob's rods are rods built by a type A perfectionist without the type A personality with his customers. Before I knew about Bob I had a local rod builder build my new Sage 7141 because of concerns about some of the final works on the store bought Sages. The young man did a good job. However, after buying two of Bob's rods, Bob will build all of my rods from now on, both his and rods from Sage or T&T or whomever.
 

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Fred, maybe you and Bob can schedule a couple of mini Spey Claves in 2003. One at Brookings near the end of the current Steelhead season on the Chetco would be great. Then, one in late September or early October on the Rogue when the half pounders, cohos and whatever are running. You haven't really lived until a big coho grabs your fly intended for a half pounder on your seven weight rod and halfway into this battle a seal grabs the coho connected to your little 7 weight line/reel/rod!

Bob could show us his Spey Rods and great Switch Rods, and how he can boom out 90' casts with those little 10.5 Switch Rods. You could display all of your rods, reels and lines to make our wives feel that the rest of us are very reasonable in our ownership of the Spey equipment when compared to you. :hehe:

I believe that Bob's friend John Quigley lives in the Brookings area now and might be persuaded to schedule some clinics on how to tie the flies and how to fish them.

Bob might even be able to get Paul Miller to join in for a while to share his talents with us.

My wife loves the Brookings area (except during the winter storms like the recent/current one).

I think that most California and Oregon Spey Clavers would want to attend something like this. I would plan on attending one or both.
 

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No reason why not.

Bob, I'll give you a call on this. Another option to for folks to try your rods will be the Charity Spey Casting Clinic. A lot of new equipment got purchased/exchanged due to "proper exposure."

Didn't hurt having Steve Choate (and Way Yin for that matter!) demo what a rod will do. When Steve starts his "demo's" by stripping ALL the line off the reel, you know what's going to happen next.
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mjyp said : "but he buys his blanks elsewhere and then builds on them"

Just want to make a simple clarification to this ~

I actually do not "Private Label" my rods.

My process of rod blank development is as follows :

First a rod or a series of rods is conceptualized....with criteria for their actions based directly on their applications.

These concepts are then related to selected graphite shops whose expertise best lends to their appropriate blank development.

Graphite USA for example has a long history of developing composite blanks that appeal to those specialized OEM builders that require fly rod blanks with extreme lift capabilities...... I.E. Salt Water, and large fresh water game fish.

I will often utilize one of GUSA's stock blanks as a bench mark from which to begin a new rod development process.

Lay-ups typical of this selected stock blank are modified to meet criteria based upon my requirements, and GUSA's material / engineering recommendations.

A few of these prototype blanks are rolled up, then sent to my shop for first time field testing.....If modifications are needed (which they often are) we discuss these issues via phone chats, and the process begins again......Until we have a blank that is ready to be taken to the water for a full season or two of hands on field testing by anglers of all skill levels that are willing to join in the process.

Only after this process will I introduce a rod to the public with my name on it.

This is a familiar scenario to those individual builders (and some very recognized name brand companies that may suprize you) that wish to develop their own unique series of rods.

I must also note that the graphite shops that are willing to work with speciality niche builders like myself in this capacity are a rare bird indeed.....That is why I am so very grateful for shops like GUSA for their cooperation and expertise !!!

One final note : I do without question agree that the rods rolled in house by Kerry Burkheimer are Magic....and are among the finest rods built.............Period.

He certaily has always been an inspiration to me !!!

Bob Meiser
 

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Hey guy.....please trust me....No offence taken !!!

I am often asked the question of who does my blanks, and this little history is my way of explaining how they have come about.

I wish I had a buck for every time I have been asked this at shows etc. that we attend......It would definitly cover the nightly after show festivities !!!

Good on Ya...........B. Meiser
 

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So!!!! Proof Positive Bob 'attends' the fun and games at ..

"......It would definitly cover the nightly after show festivities !!!"

Ah Ha!!! Medford's topless/bottomless show club (Ya, we have one!). Been a couple of years since I last dropped the dime on the expense account (a nice dinner out on the chit). Hoy Vey; did 'young ladies' look this/that good when I was young enough to 'do' something about it??/

Don't answer that!!

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Well I have to put my 02. in . Another Salmon season comes to a close .No rod back from K.B again .WELL OVER 2 1/2 YEARS MAYBE 3 .:mad: :mad: Fish-Head
 
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