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I'm sure one of the questions the THCI testor will ask a candidate is to do a Bloody L and Pile anchor. I realize that they are twin sisters but a little different in producing. I've worked hard to have the smooth and straight anchors that I now need help doing the B-L and Pile. Can someone give me some pointers on how to produce a Bloody-L and Pile Anchor on command? Thinking about testing in the next few months. Klem
 

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Bloody "L"

When doing your inital lift to start your cast the rod tip goes to high, you bring the tip down to finish the loading move to set your anchor. Part of the line will be going the right way to make the load and your leader and fly will be facing the wrong way. Shape of an "L".
Simon shows this in great detail in his book.
Klem have been doing the casting exercise that you and Al suggested for the left hand. Doing much better. I have a hint to add here. While doing the left hand up throw in a cross body or "kack handed cast" and watch the rod tip. Gives a good visual as to what the cast should look like off your opposite shoulder and how the loading, unloading of the rod feels.
In fact I am glad that I bought Simon's book. It has addressed some of the issues I have had about casting a faster rod.
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hammer,....bloodly-L....is...NEVER done while fishing- ONLY -for demonstration purposeses...or should i say; uh,uh,uh,.. sometimes under pressure. pile anchor is the twin sister to bloody-L except uh,all the line ends up in a pile at the anchor point....the problem results in an inefficient cast because of excessive line stick....klem

Speyrd, Have yet to see Simon's book. I need to get it! Thanks for the tip. I have been trying to get a pile anchor then a Bloody-L anchor on a consistent bases. I guess to many hours working on the smooth, gentle set-down has set my muscle memory. One more thing to work on on this path to become a spey caster. Klem
 

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a Croix 14 loaded to the handles=equals noodlerod=well,,Bloody L,,ah the `spey muscle',,THAT could make a thread all by itself! :smile: ,my hat's off to anyone that can change hand positions and still cast efficiently! :wink:
 

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"Speyrd, Have yet to see Simon's book. I need to get it! Thanks for the tip. I have been trying to get a pile anchor then a Bloody-L anchor on a consistent bases."

Simon's book is THE best I've seen todate. All of the casts are covered in a series (not just one or two!!) colour photos. This allow you to see the rod/line actually move through the entire operation. Simon also then provides very good 'line drawings' showing the cast. Only a couple of these are a bit confusing (snake roll for an example). But his 'idea' of drawing the lower case letter "e" is right on the mark as to how the rod tip flows through the cast.
 

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Klem,

You're right, these are different kinds of slack anchors. The Bloody L is the right angled shape of the end of the line/leader the occurs as Leroy says. The main move is an up-down-up path of the rod tip as the back cast into the D loop is made. It can also happen for example in a double spey if the anchor is placed too far downstream. In this situation the D loop can't turn the anchor to face the target and you get that characteristic right angled or L shape of the Bloody L. The pile anchor happens when the tip path is angled downwards between the end of the lift and the final stop of the rod on the back cast. As a result the end of the line/leader hits the water and piles on itself.
 

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Fred, Am reading the book as I am teaching myself to cast Left hand on top. Don't know how well you know Portland but if you should happen to take a tour by boat up the Willamette and see some one Spey Casting under the Sellwood Bridge, that person would be me.
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Leroy,

Are you interested/willing to occasionally have some company when practicing? I'm nowhere near you as a caster with either hand up, but like you I have a strong desire to learn to cast with left hand up. I'm particularly eager after watching Olga this weekend: The help from Al at the last NSSC casting must have taken hold, as she was casting left-hand-up singles/switches up to 80-85 feet in a valiant effort to reach a far lie on the Umpqua. This particular hole demands a cast off the left shoulder. I can reach it on a good day using cross-hand singles, but I've got a knot in the muscle below my left shoulder as a result of always using my right hand up.

When/what time of day do you practice at Sellwood?

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Down on the river most days between 10 to 2. You are welcome to join me at Sellwood Park, east side of the river any time.
Leroy..........................
 
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