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Has anyone used craft fur when the pattern calls for arctic fox? has it been tried and is it succesfull in the water... I think it would look good on the vise but not
sure if making the flies and not have a good fly to catchsteelhead. The properties look similar. just wondering.....
 

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Craft fur works but I have not used arctic fox so cannot compare them. It will work for steelhead, remember some times all ones need is a piece of yarn for steelhead
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I've used plenty of craft fur but not as a sub for arctic fox. There are plenty of tutorials up on YouTube of craft fur applications. Often times it is fashioned into a dubbing brush.
 

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Craft fur can, of course, be used as a substitute for many natural furs, including arctic fox, and makes a reasonable substitute for fishing flies, but it's not the same.

The usual argument for it's use is that 'no animal was killed to produce it', but you have to comfortable with the carbon footprint used to make the artificial fibres (from oil-derived products), and the poisonous chemicals used to dye it (or at least the disposal of the poisonous chemicals from the dye run-off in the far east where most of these fibres are made extremely cheaply).

I prefer the natural fibres of fox etc....


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The truth (which many will not divulge and many who don't know better will not acknowledge) is that craft fur can substitute for virtually any natural tail hair for the wing on a hairwing wet.
 

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Why add more plastic in to environment ? :confused:
Such a fly will stay for a lot of years on bottom of river when natural furs disappeared during season or two .
I personally do not like to work with synthetic material of course except flashes. this is difficult to replace . OK maybe little bit by shiny natural hairs like pb or some goats etc.
simply I like to feel natural material under my fingers :)
I think that argument that source of fur are from animal is rather for "green ' fanatics not for us who has hobby as we have . :chuckle:
 

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craft fur with flash.

do you have a website I might visit . and think about how to buy some craft fur from you?
 

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Remember the line in Clint Eastwood's movie 'Unforgiven' when William Munny says, "I've killed everything that walks or crawls at one time or another" I'm no William Munny but I've tied flies from about anything that walks, crawls or flies at one time or another. And I've used craft Fur too :eek:

Until I was able to find goat hair long enough for some patterns (4 - 5") I subbed CF for the long fibers. It works just fine if used, I've changed now, I don't use craft fur or drink the way I did, my wife Nancy she cleared me of all them evil ways. Now I use goat.

I think I should get an award here for using more Clint Eastwood quotes over the years than any other member :D
 

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goat 4-5" it is totally no problem but above 8" become little bit ;-)
but such a length is very seldom necessary
 

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I've got a Yorkshire Terrier & she stands 12" high at the shoulders - she is classic black back and tan face/neck and paws. Her longest fur is 12" & pure black! However, she will keep all her own fur ... not even been tempted to pinch a lock of it!! ;)


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I've got a Yorkshire Terrier & she stands 12" high at the shoulders - she is classic black back and tan face/neck and paws. Her longest fur is 12" & pure black! However, she will keep all her own fur ... not even been tempted to pinch a lock of it!! ;)


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Surly she needs a trim time to time Mike, wouldn't be proper to toss the stuff would it :D
 

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I began tying my Miramichi favorite black ghost in the smaller sizes with kraft fur a few years ago. I think it works at least as well as any of the natural materials. It is made a little unevenly so it has a natural taper, and perhaps as importantly as anything it is virtually indestructible for normal fishing use. Good stuff.
 

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black ghost

are there any photos of your fly? would like to see how used the craft fur for the wing. did you use hackle for the throat or again craft fur?
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Craft Fur rocks, but I would not call it a substitute. Marabou is marabou, fox is fox, Finn Coon is Finn Coon. To me a substitute is a material that mimics a material that is no longer available or a material that has become illegal to purchase. Seal sub, Indian Crow sub, florican sub, etc. With that said, can you substitute different materials when tying an established pattern? You bet you can. The finished product then becomes a variant of the original pattern. Dec turned me onto craft fur,many moons ago. He ties a marabou fly using craft fur for the tail. I was pretty much a natural material snob, till Dec set me straight. A touch of synthetic if incorporated correctly can make a positive difference. Craft Fur has a number of advantages, one, it has a very good sink rate. It spins in a dubbing loop and the colors are endless. "Your hook, your rules." Don't limit your self, as I had. Only you can choose the terms of how you fish, might as well fish the way that brings you the most joy.

http://www.speypages.com/speyclave/showthread.php?t=63896
 

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